My Bad

itsb · #1 12/20/14, 08:06 AM

I may hurt some feelings here,but O-well I have stuck my foot in my mouth before ! When I read a thread and people talk of moving here or there and say watch out cause they are clannish well I guess I am that !
Why are we clannish ?
I live on a gravel road--it don't need paved !
ya its going to snow----it don't need road to be plowed !
I aint using ALL of my property--it don't belong to you !
it may not be the purdyest------it don't belong to you !
I don't need you telling me how it was where you came from !
I don't need you to tell me how to do this or that !
I don't need or want your animals or you on my property !
I don't need your new laws !
ya I know Im backwards---But im not moving to your area !
you want to move here cause the taxes are cheaper,property is cheaper ! well just rember all that stuf you moved away from like paved roads,zoneing,policeing,snow plowing and what ever cost money to support. well back to me being backwards,I know that all that stuff you think that (WE) need now that you live in the sticks, cost in what is called TAXES.
Now I wander why people think that we are clanndish

well that's my storie and Im sticking to it. Merry Christmas

Ceilismom · #2 12/20/14, 08:38 AM

And on the flip side:
I don't want the road paved either.
I've seen snow that needed to be plowed. This isn't it.
I don't want to use your property.
I don't care how you do things on your property.
And I don't care what it looks like.
I don't want my animals on your property either.
If I tell you how things were where I came from, it's either to illustrate why I'm asking how they're done here, or else to explain why I don't live there any more.
I'm not interested in adding more laws.

Oddly, I haven't run into too much clannishness. Happy Hanukkah!

sisterpine · #3 12/20/14, 08:38 AM

That just sounds like something a country fella would say to a city guy! When I lived in MT someplace, maybe the newspaper, used to publish a letter to new residents from out of state each summer. The letter said Welcome to Montana....you are not in California or some such and went on the detail the differences. Things like don't call the cops if your neighbors livestock is making too much noise...we don't care, etc.

V-NH · #4 12/20/14, 08:44 AM

Your description sounds great. Send me a link to the next farm for sale on your road. My ideal place to live would allow me to exist without interacting with my neighbors. I'll never inconvenience you, you never inconvenience me, and we'll silently nod hello when we pass each other by. I'll never push for laws that raise taxes as long as you agree to the same. I won't complain about what you do on your property if you don't complain about what I do on mine.

If only such a place actually existed, I would really move there.

buffalocreek · #5 12/20/14, 09:16 AM

I'm clanndish too.

geo in mi · #6 12/20/14, 09:30 AM

"I think it's good for a person to spend time alone. It gives them an opportunity to discover who they are and to figure out why they are always alone.”
― Amy Sedaris, I Like You: Hospitality Under the Influence

“I never said, 'I want to be alone.' I only said 'I want to be let alone!' There is all the difference.”
― Greta Garbo, Garbo

My son worked for the county road commission during his summers while in college. He loves to drive the back way and point out all the places where there are people like you who "just want to be left alone." I kinda like my road paved: it's easier to plow than before, and it's easier on the struts. (It was gravel since the beginning.) And I don't have to clean my house as often. But I still frown when someone pulls into my gravel driveway.

Joyeux Noel

geo

itsb · #7 12/20/14, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceilismom

And on the flip side:
I don't want the road paved either.
I've seen snow that needed to be plowed. This isn't it.
I don't want to use your property.
I don't care how you do things on your property.
And I don't care what it looks like.
I don't want my animals on your property either.
If I tell you how things were where I came from, it's either to illustrate why I'm asking how they're done here, or else to explain why I don't live there any more.
I'm not interested in adding more laws.

Oddly, I haven't run into too much clannishness. Happy Hanukkah!

check mate

happy Hanukkah back at ya,(what ever that is)

Jennifer L. · #8 12/20/14, 10:30 AM

Where I come from, I want the road plowed when it snows. Other than that, yep!

ceresone · #9 12/20/14, 10:42 AM

Darned if I didnt know where the OP was from!! Merry Christmas!

simi-steading · #10 12/20/14, 11:13 AM

I moved to where I did because I like not having a paved road, and I want MY property to do with how I want and could care less what you do with yours.. and all the other things the OP points out, that's not being clannish..

Clannish is when you don't welcome new people.. It's when you talk behind their backs. It's when you don't even want to get a chance to know them.. It's when you make them feel like outsiders and not a part of the community. It's when you don't try to get along with the other families that have been in the area too... Hatfield's and Macoy's were clannish...

Just because someone moves into your neighborhood does not mean they care about what you think they think.. It does not mean they want you to change. Maybe they would just like to get a chance to learn how you all have been doing it for centuries, but are frustrated you think they are out to get you or are against you or want something you have.

My wife and I have been lucky.. We've been accepted, and have people that actually care enough to help us adjust to how things are done out here. We are spending hours upon hours working with the VFD and getting out firefighter certs SO WE CAN HELP too..

We stopped in at the food give away today for a few to lend a hand and say hi.. I didn't go deer hunting like I wanted two days ago because they needed help unloading several tons of food for the give away... we didn't take a single pee of food out the door when we stopped in today, even though some were trying to give us stuff...... We want to become a part of the community we now call home. Others need the food. We don't. We won't take what we don't need from those who do.

Granted, some people do move to the country, and expect you to change. They expect everyone to give to them... But not all of us are like that, yet we have seen how we are treated like that by some.....

A lot of the locals want to know our business, but we don't want to know all of theirs...

It's a two ways street... Get to know the outsiders before you start judging them, and maybe they won't judge you based on your clannishness..

It blows our minds at times hearing little things that get back to us from people we just met who know a heck of a lot about us, before we've ever heard of them.

It's been pretty interesting to see some of these country people come to realize that I'm a little more country than they are in many ways. Amazing how much that has gotten some acceptance of us too..

FarmboyBill · #11 12/20/14, 12:23 PM

Im rather like the OP. My road is paved dangit, and it extremely popular cut off from one end to the other. I don't go off the farm hardly any, anymore. One reason I have all the tools and machinery is cause I would be able to do anything I wanted and not have to borrow somebody elses something to do it.. IF I could just keep my neighbors and the road run dogs away from my chickens, id be pretty satisfied,

ceresone · #12 12/20/14, 02:54 PM

Just had to tell my story--LOL.
I've lived within 3 miles of here for 74 years, 48 on this farm.
When Hubby and I bought this farm, I was 30 years old--and we had 3 daughters from my previous marriage. (We added a son 3 years later) Our closest neighbor was a woman 5 years older that I'd gone to school with--other neighbor was about 10 years older.
Hubby and I both worked-plus our farmhouse burned the the ground a few days after we moved in. So-when the younger of the 2 women would call, and drone on for literally hours, I'd lay the phone down, and go about my business, picking it up one in a while to say. "Oh, thats too bad" That worked--for 25 years!!I knew she did the same with others-but I told myself she was just lonely.
Well, they have both passed on-and left grown children behind. Latest neighbor was in Florida, when one of these called her, and screamed at her for spending too much time here--because I was such a gossip! The lady from Florida has been here twice this year, while I taught her to use a pressure canner!
I blew up--I never leave home, only see my children once in awhile-and wouldnt know anything to talk about-IF I did talk. So, I promptly told the lady that said this that the 2 gossips had passed on, and it seemed to me she was the only one left!
Neighbor hoods quiet now, least if she still talks, I dont have to hear it.
I live on a dirt road, dont know a darn thing except farming, gardening and canning-and refuse to talk about it anymore. Clannish? you betcha, but that clan can stay far away from my clan! (despite my having payed one of them $3000. for bushogging last year)
Next time I hire work, it will be from far away.
Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas from the Ozarks!

#13 12/21/14, 03:27 AM

What's a snow plowed road?

Ozarks Tom · #14 12/21/14, 07:33 PM

I know what clannish is, and just wanting to be left alone ain't it.

Now, we moved from Dallas to the Smoky Mountains for a short period of time, and got the distinct impression us just being alive insulted some of those folks. I remember walking into a factory lunchroom and seeing two separate groups, the locals at one end, and the people from the next valley at the other. Now that's clannish.