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12/17/14, 10:24 AM
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Corn deal??
What's going on? I saw "deer corn" for $6 per bag in a sporting goods store, I think 25 pounds but they didn't have the pounds clearly marked. The bag said not for horse feed or rabbit feed and not for humans. Didn't say anything about chickens. So what makes it unsafe for horses and rabbits? I can see them not wanting to sell for humans but can't see why it is unsafe for the other animals.
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12/17/14, 10:27 AM
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Maybe there was additional minerals specifically for deer mixed in with the corn?
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12/17/14, 10:39 AM
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My guess is it is insurance against stupid  Now days everyone covers all angles should you feed a horse a bag of corn at a time and it founders it an't the corn sellers fault 
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12/17/14, 10:53 AM
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Dec corn is trading just under $4. I fail to see how bagging and shipping makes it worth $13.44.
People with horses are nuts, I don't even really want to sell hay to them.
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12/17/14, 10:55 AM
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But $6 for 25# is no good.
I can get whole corn 50# bag for just $10.75
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12/17/14, 10:58 AM
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Location: Michigan
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I'm getting corn for 8 per 100 lbs. get a break at 500 and another at a ton.
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12/17/14, 11:33 AM
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I can get bagged whole corn at feed store for $6-$7 per 50 lbs. For 25 lbs thats expensive. Some deer corn has flavors in it, like apple and such. I don't know why it would be bad for other livestock if given in moderation.
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12/17/14, 11:40 AM
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My guess is they are labeling it to give the perception that it is ONLY for deer, and so the gullible think something is special about it, and cough up the extra cash, thinking the label means something.
How on earth do they expect to feed deer only and not the neighborhood cottontails? Fence out the rabbits??? lol
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12/17/14, 02:25 PM
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It may have been 50 pounds, if I by there again I will pay more attention, but the bag did not have weight on it. Or it may be some odd size, like 40 pounds. Not having the weight obvious makes me suspicious. The tag did guarantee 6% protein. I was thinking of getting some for daughter who has chickens. It will be a cold day in Panama when I even feed deer, much less buy it for them.
The apple, etc flavors sound reasonable.
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12/17/14, 04:06 PM
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In all likelihood it is very poor corn that might have molds or mycotoxins in it which are harmful to chickens, horses, and pigs.
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12/17/14, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy J
In all likelihood it is very poor corn that might have molds or mycotoxins in it which are harmful to chickens, horses, and pigs.
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Not a chance farmers panic at just the thought of mold  Here the farmers have bins that hold a million bushels
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12/17/14, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawmill Jim
Not a chance farmers panic at just the thought of mold Here the farmers have bins that hold a million bushels |
I was talking about the crap that is packaged as "Deer Corn". I my experience it is not near the quality that is required for feeding of livestock.
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12/17/14, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy J
In all likelihood it is very poor corn that might have molds or mycotoxins in it which are harmful to chickens, horses, and pigs.
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Yep or low bushel weight.
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12/17/14, 06:27 PM
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Farmers are getting right at $4 per bushel (56lbs)
A rural farm coop will sell you corn, bagged up in bushel bags for $5 or $6 I would guess.
Corn is corn.
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12/17/14, 08:44 PM
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Deer corn here is 6.75/50lb cash.... aflatoxin levels should be on the bag somewhere...
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12/17/14, 08:54 PM
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I don't know what is going on with the corn you ask about but it is expensive for animal feed if it is 25lbs. I was buying corn the other day at the mill and they had a sign up "deer corn" 6.95/50lb. I asked what the deal was as corn was 11.00/100 at that time, it has since dropped from there. I asked if they were just trying to take advantage of the feeder craze or what and the fella said no that they mix molasses and/or mineral with their deer corn depending on the time of the year.
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12/17/14, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texican
Deer corn here is 6.75/50lb cash.... aflatoxin levels should be on the bag somewhere...
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Doubt you are gonna see aflatoxin levels listed on bagged corn for deer or squirells or whatever. Elevators screen the corn coming in, but even if it has some aflatoxin, the levels are low enough they know they can blend it in with good corn and get the levels down to acceptable numbers. If it is too high when the farmers bring it in they will reject it.
If it is rejected, the only way you get an accurate aflatoxin reading is if a sample is taken to the state grain labs. But this corn isn't going to be in the elevators mix.
You should not get "hot" corn in brown bags.
But if it is for deer, who cares anyway?
Gene (Retired crop ins. adjuster)
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12/21/14, 04:05 AM
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Horses and rabbits are particularly sensitive to aflatoxins, as are some people. Poultry vary, with ducks most sensitive. Unless I knew the grower and their practices I personally would not buy any grain which was not specifically labelled as suitable for horses, because the horse sensitivity and the particular value some horses can have makes feed suppliers chary of poisoning prize racehorses with mycotoxins.
Any grain I bought would have some chance of ending up feeding me, so I want the best quality I can get at a reasonable price. If it is specifically labelled as NOT suitable for horses and rabbits, then it's certain that it's of marginal quality, probably rotten stuff diluted with as little good stuff as they can get away with to bring the numbers up to some minimum level. I'm not interested in marginal AT ALL, particularly when I can get good quality for a couple of dollars more per fifty pounds.
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12/22/14, 09:34 AM
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Genetic modification is a non factor?
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12/22/14, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COWS
It will be a cold day in Panama when I even feed deer, much less buy it for them. COWS
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I have had venison that spent the summer in some farmers bean field and some time in his corn field.
I have had venison that spent the summer feeding in a cedar swamp.
Guess which one I prefer?
Bait piles are legal in Michigan and we feed apples, corn and sugar beets.
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