Can you bale with a mihandra 4035 pst

loggerbud · #1 08/30/14, 12:41 PM

I wondering if I could bale with this tractor small squares of course it has 33 pto horse power and weights around 5000 lbs with tires being loaded.

loggerbud · #2 08/30/14, 12:43 PM

I would be doing 2 cuts a year on 20 acres max

jwal10 · #3 08/30/14, 02:01 PM

Sure, with the right LITTLE baler. I had a baler with a single cyl wisconsin, less than 20 hp behind a little Farmall B. How long? I would be concerned about the PTO on a PTO drive baler, but who knows. Take it slow and easy. I take it, it is a shuttle shift manual trans. I don't know if you can buy a small enough baler new....James

loggerbud · #4 08/30/14, 02:04 PM

Yes it is a power shuttle shift and what about the pto concerns you

FarmboyBill · #5 08/30/14, 04:38 PM

Likely, the torque used on the pto to drive a modern bailer, and in supplying the torque, the hp. 33hp SEEMS enough, but that's not always so.

When they started making tractors, a 30-60 ment, if im right it had 30hp on the drawbar, and 60 on the belt. Well, that 30 on the drawbar, could pull my CC Case at around 34hp anywhere it wanted to take it.
I just about imagine my Case would take your tractor anywhere it wanted to take it.

Youll see tractor like lawn mowers that say they have 12 to 15hp, but I bet my Cub Farmall at 12hp could haul them around with ease.

loggerbud · #6 08/30/14, 04:46 PM

It has 40 hp motor and it's a pretty stout machine comming at over 7000lbs with the loader on it.

jwal10 · #7 08/30/14, 05:09 PM

A baler is about as tough as it comes on a PTO. The surging may cause it to slip some on a tough wad of hay. They don't take well to continued slippage. They are not like an older tractor that the PTO ran through the big main engine clutch....James

loggerbud · #8 08/30/14, 05:11 PM

Oh okay thanks for the input

wogglebug · #9 08/30/14, 05:22 PM

Don't forget you can get small square balers with their own engine, made to be towed by an Amish horse team. Dig into it with a search engine. It's not the best answer, but it does work, and it also gives you an idea of what power you can get away with.

jwal10 · #10 08/30/14, 06:27 PM

In the other baler thread here I talked about an IH 27 baler with a 1 cyl Wisconsin motor, less than 20 hp. I pulled it with a Farmall B. They were made for older, small tractors without PTO and before live PTO. It worked well, I baled 1000 ton 1 year with it, about 300 ton of that was straw....James

Yvonne's hubby · #11 08/30/14, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by loggerbud

I wondering if I could bale with this tractor small squares of course it has 33 pto horse power and weights around 5000 lbs with tires being loaded.

I baled a good many small squares with a to20 ferguson... think it was rated at 28 HP on the pto, 24 on the ground. When I moved up to the to35 that had live power, and about 35 HP on the pto my life improved drastically! The HP really wasnt an issue with the 20, but the live power just makes life in the field sooooo much easier.

Yvonne's hubby · #12 08/30/14, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jwal10

A baler is about as tough as it comes on a PTO. The surging may cause it to slip some on a tough wad of hay. They don't take well to continued slippage. They are not like an older tractor that the PTO ran through the big main engine clutch....James

I think a rototiller is actually a lot tougher on the pto clutch than a baler... the surge issue doesnt really cause much slippage due to the flywheel carrying most of the plunger load. The idea behind the flywheel is to cover that heavy load when the plunger demands it... the pto just keeps it spinning. When the shear pin pops due to too much load, the plunger stops and the tractor usually does too.