neighbors clear cutting

Forcast · #1 05/29/14, 06:51 PM

Well I know its their land but why would new owners one less than a year the other 4 years, buy 5 acre wooded area in a 50 some acres wooded neighborhood and then want a empty field with tree stumps and all the dirt and limbs? I don't get it. Just buy a open lot in a field someplace.

manfred · #2 05/29/14, 06:58 PM

My uncle clear cut 160 acres. Now he wants to sell and it's ugly and full of 6 ft ruts. Nobody has made an offer.

Seth · #3 05/29/14, 07:04 PM

Timber is high. Quick easy bucks. Seth

FarmboyBill · #4 05/29/14, 07:07 PM

Timber land, if its mainly scrub timber sells for way less than open land. Its also more hilly than open land thereby again cheaper.

Fire-Man · #5 05/29/14, 07:08 PM

Have a friend that bought 185 acres, had it cut shortly after buying it and he got enough out of the cutting to almost pay for it.

big rockpile · #6 05/29/14, 08:15 PM

Buy them out that's what my neighbors do if I do something they don't like.

big rockpile

simi-steading · #7 05/29/14, 08:23 PM

Maybe he wants to herd Ostriches on the land?

TnAndy · #8 05/29/14, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Forcast

Well I know its their land but why would new owners one less than a year the other 4 years, buy 5 acre wooded area in a 50 some acres wooded neighborhood and then want a empty field with tree stumps and all the dirt and limbs? I don't get it. Just buy a open lot in a field someplace.

Maybe you don't know the plan. When I bought my place, it was 100% wooded, and the first thing I did was knock down 3 acres of timber ( and used it to build the house ). It did look like a war zone for couple years until I got all the logs, firewood, stumps, etc out, and a pasture started.

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jwal10 · #9 05/29/14, 09:01 PM

Wait and see, they may find out they made a mistake, or they want a big garden and didn't want the trees to shade it....OR....easy money....James

**Shrek** · #10 05/29/14, 09:04 PM

We had timber land clear cut strictly for the money. Now we are working out trading bulldozing work for pasture lease discount on some other acreage we have to turn the former timber acreage into more ponded pasture in a few years, which has a more steady income potential than the timber land did .

Forcast · #11 05/30/14, 02:38 PM

Its mostly pine I heard $3.00 a ton. I don't know it will look so bad for such a long time and we have one lane dirt road in and out so I just wonder what will happen to our poor old road, hope they don't think I will help pay for the road repair, cause it antgona happen. I might understand better select cutting but that's not what I am hearing. Its 9 acres and 5 acers. I dated a lumber man and went on job sites and it does look BAD for a long time. The one thinks she will just dig out the stumps plant apple trees. Sounds good right. Hope they get lots and lots of cash cause I bet it will cost a good bit to clean up after the cut.

snowlady · #12 05/30/14, 03:44 PM

The guy that owned the timber around our yard cut only the hugest, tallest trees in the timber. Thought he'd strike it rich for the lumber...guess what...they were all rotten at the core. He just let them lay where they fell, branches and all. We had quite a mess when we finally bought the timber ourselves.

rambotex · #13 05/30/14, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by manfred

My uncle clear cut 160 acres. Now he wants to sell and it's ugly and full of 6 ft ruts. Nobody has made an offer.

I hope no small critters fall in those 6 foot ruts

Forcast · #14 05/30/14, 07:27 PM

Maybe. The cattle they wants to run on the stumps to eat the leaves and acorns. But its thiers to do as they want. When I bought my 5 acres some 30 years ago I was told I could not cut the trees, its in the covent, guess we don't have that in place anymore, I even had to pay for the power line to be buried so the trees didn't need to be cut. Oh well it is what it is.

Seth · #15 05/30/14, 07:43 PM

Grubbing stumps runs about $1000 an acre here.

Patchouli · #16 05/30/14, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Forcast

Maybe. The cattle they wants to run on the stumps to eat the leaves and acorns. But its thiers to do as they want. When I bought my 5 acres some 30 years ago I was told I could not cut the trees, its in the covent, guess we don't have that in place anymore, I even had to pay for the power line to be buried so the trees didn't need to be cut. Oh well it is what it is.

Are you sure he had a legal right to have them cut? It's possible he just went ahead and did it and hoped nobody would do anything.

Forcast · #17 05/30/14, 10:01 PM

Well it has not been cut yet the two land owners had the people in yesterday wanted to know if I wanted mine cut? No. Ithe are signing contracts this weekend. I did call the person that is kinda our mayor for lack of another thing to call her, she handled the road fees and makes the call for when the main road gets plowed. Anyway she said they can do it but she was not happy about it. Funny she was one of the neighbors that said I couldn't cut tree way back when I bought the place. I just don't get spending all the money to buy the land and then cut it down,just don't get it, but maybe the money is good. I might be underestimateing how many tons is in a pine tree at $3.00 a ton, some hardwood, but the man could not give me a price on hardwoods he said it is market price at the time it gos to the mill. March ,that's like next year. So it can't be being desperate for money if the are not going to cut till march. Right.
Hay thanks for letting me vent. Just hit me the wrong way when the next door neighbor the only house I can see in the winter, when the trees are not leafed out yet said she was cutting the trees between our places and did I want some left near the property line, and did I want my trees cut as well.
I think g I read on someone's post about new people.moving in a neighborhood and wanting to change it, it might have been. about someone with chickens and the new people didn't like the chickens.

TnAndy · #18 05/31/14, 03:03 PM

That's WHY I bought 75ac tucked back into a pocket of National Forest land....so I wouldn't have to put up with "what the neighbors do".

joe&katie · #19 05/31/14, 03:20 PM

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National Forest land....so I wouldn't have to put up with "what the neighbors do".

Back when I lived in Ohio, I discovered that national forest land is pretty much considered a crop - it is part of the Dept of Agriculture, & it isn't protected from being cut down. On the contrary, the government sells it really cheap to the timber companies, even pays to have their haul roads built. So, I don't think it is all that great a deal to have national forest land as a neighbor.

TnAndy · #20 05/31/14, 04:18 PM

I don't particularly care if they cut it, although I did plant a whole bunch of white pines on my side of the line so I wouldn't have to look at it IF they did.

Also, the way this property lays, there is zero access from the road here into the USFS property ( they do have access on up the valley, but the way the terrain lays, it would be extremely costly to build access in to where the property lays around me.....you'd have to see this situation to understand it )....some one on the road in to me would have to grant access to get to the property. Not saying it wouldn't happen, but in 30 years, it hasn't. None of them want to see their 'back yard' cut either.

Also, timber sales have dropped way off on USFS property here in the Appalachians for some reason. When we moved here in the 70-80's, they were fairly common....I can't think of the last one around here they did.

The MAIN reason for buying adjoining USFS property is the odds of that anyone can build/buy/develop any of it is REAL low. ( they do not sell land, but they will trade it for other property from time to time )