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Old 04/29/14, 07:57 AM
 
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Eell quit working today. I have 28lbs air in pressure tank, no water anywhere. Presure switch is showing 240 in and 0 out with switch contacts closed. New switch right? Or could that be showing a short or dead pump motor would be giving me the same reading?
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Old 04/29/14, 08:08 AM
 
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Nope not switch moved the washer so i could rech better im hot in and out
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Old 04/29/14, 10:08 AM
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Submersible pump in well or jet pump above ground ? If it's a submersible pump , is it a 2 or 3 wire pump ? A 2 wire pump will actually have 3 wires if you count the ground & a 3 wire pump will have 4 wires if you count the ground .
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Old 04/29/14, 10:14 AM
 
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Eell quit working today. I have 28lbs air in pressure tank, no water anywhere. Presure switch is showing 240 in and 0 out with switch contacts closed. New switch right? Or could that be showing a short or dead pump motor would be giving me the same reading?
..............You should measure pressure in the tank , WITHOUT , any water in the tank ! Likewise , fill air bladder to lowside kickin pressure minus 2 psi ! Then , engage pump...........I'm assuming you have a conventional submersiable pump . , fordy
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..............You should measure pressure in the tank , WITHOUT , any water in the tank ! Likewise , fill air bladder to lowside kickin pressure minus 2 psi ! Then , engage pump...........I'm assuming you have a conventional submersiable pump . , fordy
With voltage in & out of the pressure switch the pump should be running .
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Old 04/29/14, 10:22 AM
 
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Its 3 wire submersiable. I tried everything i can think of. 240 at the wellhead as well so it must be the motor well man is on his way.
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Old 04/29/14, 10:34 AM
 
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Do you have a multimeter and if so can you use it? Disconnect line 1 and line 2 from the pressure switch and take an ohm reading. Make certain that you have disconnected the power going to the pressure switch before starting the procedure. Report your resistance readings here.
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Old 04/29/14, 01:08 PM
 
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A dead short would trip the breaker so chances are you have an "open" circuit in the line. Could be a wire nut now making contact or internal in the pump motor.

Wade
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Old 04/29/14, 03:17 PM
 
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Unless things have changed dramatically since I messed with these, a two-wire pump has only two wires going down into the well. It does not have a third neutral or ground wire. A three wire pump should normally have a separate control box somewhere between the pressure switch and pump above ground. But you already called the well guy. This is just one example of easily found info on this. Hope you get it going...I hate water problems!

"Most 4″ submersible well pumps used in residential applications come in 2 different configurations, 2-wire or 3-wire. With the 3-wire pump, the motor starting components such as, starting capacitors, running capacitors, relays, and thermal over loads, are contained in a control box, or panel, mounted on a wall, or post, above ground.
In the case of a 2-wire pump, the starting components are built into the motor, which is suspended off the bottom of the pump, deep in the well.
All electrical components have a life span, and are subject to fatigue under normal operating conditions, and on occasion will require replacement. Not to mention the fact that we live in the “lightning belt of the world”, and I can witness to the fact that I have seen control boxes and panels literally blown to smithereens, their components scattered all about, and more often than not, a simple control box or panel replacement will get the pump up and running. And just what are Smithereens?
In most instances, the replacement of an above ground, control box, or panel, for a 3-wire pump, can be completed in less than 45 minutes, with no more damage to flora, and terra firma, than my 165-pound behind will inflict. The starting components in a 2-wire pump motor however are non-replaceable, they are built into the motor, therefore, requiring the pump to be pulled out of the well, and the motor replaced. Due to the, time, costs, tire tracks, ruts, broken limbs, flattened shrubs and inconvenience, of having to pull the pump from the well to affix the repair, the 3-wire pump deserves your consideration. Oh, one other thing worth mentioning, the 2-wire pump is only made for the 1/2, through 1 1/2-horsepower pumps, the larger horsepower pumps such as 2 horsepower through 200- horsepower, are not manufactured in a 2-wire design!"
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Submersible pumps2 or 3 wire? | Keith Specialty Store
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Old 04/29/14, 06:31 PM
 
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Was just a shorted wire i got a reading from my cheapo voltmeter but the well guy had a clip on one and when he moved the wire it was shorting out so he cut it at ground level and spliced back togwther Problem solved! Wish i had kept working on it but i am working next 4 days and didnt want to put off the call...
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Old 04/29/14, 09:10 PM
 
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Things changed a couple years ago. Plastic pipe and casing now, they run a ground also.

Had to rewire my pit because of this last fall.

Paul
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