What are uncleaned oats going for in your area?

Ziptie · #1 03/13/14, 11:45 AM

Just put in our order for 110 bushels of uncleaned oats. $5.34 a bushel

Mill said that there is a shortage of oats, so once again most is coming from Canada. Asked her about who is planting them this year. Said not really anyone this year as far as she knew(not a whole bunch of people doing it in the past, but their were some).

Just curious what other people are paying for the stuff. Seems like every where else has cheaper feed then here in Iowa. Time for a road trip.

Sure hope you Canadians are planting a large crop this year.

chester5731 · #2 03/13/14, 01:37 PM

When I threshed mine last august I got $5.75 right out of the field.

Brighton · #3 03/13/14, 01:42 PM

I can't remember the last time I saw oats growing around here, probably 40 years or more.

Lauri · #4 03/13/14, 01:44 PM

MI- $3.50 a bushel

farmerDale · #5 03/13/14, 01:50 PM

We in Canada have all the oats you desire. But we are fighting with the rail companies. Believe me, there is no small amount of oats up here. The issue is getting it there with our near monopoly rail lines.

Oats here is around 2 and a bit a bushel. (34 lbs). It is so stupid, and farmers are angry. I am in a serious oat growing area...

countryfied2011 · #6 03/13/14, 01:51 PM

I dont know what they are going for here(middle TN), but I remember buying Oats for my horses because it was a cheap feed and they loved them....at the time it was about 6 or 7 dollars a 50lb bag. That was probably about 10 yrs ago, they are now 17 or 18 a 50lb bag clean whole oats. You use to could buy oat hay also but I haven't seen any around in ages.

I know that doesnt answer your question..but it does seem like it is scarce..

wally · #7 03/13/14, 02:09 PM

No oats grown in my area.

Paumon · #8 03/13/14, 02:18 PM

Canada has always been the main producer and exporter of oats to USA and other countries.

Wanda · #9 03/13/14, 02:37 PM

The northern states and Canada have the best climate for oats. In the lower parts of the Midwest it can be hit and miss. If the weather is not perfect you end up with oats with a very low test weight. They are very hard to sell because they have a much lower nutrient level.

Ziptie · #10 03/13/14, 05:08 PM

I guess that is what happened. The last few years the few guys that were growing oats got hit with poor crops. No subsidies for oats like corn.

Maybe we need to take a trip to Canada. Wasn't the Milo really cheep up there too.

Wanda · #11 03/13/14, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziptie

I guess that is what happened. The last few years the few guys that were growing oats got hit with poor crops. No subsidies for oats like corn.

Maybe we need to take a trip to Canada. Wasn't the Milo really cheep up there too.

You are thinking about barley. Milo is more for hotter and drier areas. It (milo) will be grown south of you. I presume you were speaking about a type of grain sorghum. The problem is freight costs. The price of fuel makes local produce a much better deal.

VERN in IL · #12 03/13/14, 05:33 PM

Milo is hell on combines. You also get two crops.

Allen W · #13 03/13/14, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VERN in IL

Milo is hell on combines. You also get two crops.

How do you figure that? A little extra wear to the sickle over wheat but it doesn't take any thing to thresh it.

haypoint · #14 03/13/14, 07:06 PM

I think the subsidy on corn went away a number of years ago. But the ethanol plants get government support, so they can afford to pay more for their raw product, corn.

Like everything in farming, what was high this year will be low next season. Corn went way up, so those that could raise corn stopped raising barley, oats or rye. Thos that had hay fields in the corn belt, plowed them under and planted corn.
Demand is still up there for corn, but oats, barley, rye and hay are in short supply. That drives up the price. I'd expect with the high input costs of corn, a few will be attracted to grow hay, trying to capture the $7.00 a bale market. But when enough go that way, the ample supply will drive down the price of hay.

Canada grows some nice oats. Generally in areas where corn would be difficult to grow. Because it is often very dry in late summer, the oats don't turn yellow, but stay white. They grow white varieties that look beautiful, but would be discolored by rain if grown in most areas of the US.

Ziptie · #15 03/14/14, 08:31 AM

That is the funny thing around here. Guys lost money last year on corn (and the year before that), but what are planting this year..corn. A lot of fields are just being planted corn on corn no rotation going on even. I won't even mention hay.

Yea, I buy the white grain sorghum for us instead of corn in all our animals diets. I grew some last year but I am harvesting all by hand. It helped some but..hedge clippers are the best thing to use for that.

rambler · #16 03/14/14, 09:16 AM

Oats grows better on Canada, so that is where te good oats comes from.

Railroads are all tied up hauling petrolium products; any type of grain is having a hard time getting shipped. We need more pipelines to move the petrolium, so the trains are freed up for grains and oter regular stuff again.

Anyhow, with the rail all full, growers of oats, wheat, corn, soybeans get less, users of those grains pay more. Funny deal. Can't get it transported, have to use more expensive trucks or just wait.

I sold my extra wagon of oats for $3.40 after harvest, but it was low test weight this year. However would be worth a buck or two more now, since prices rose since its so difficult to get any shipped in from Canada.

Lot of farmers plan to add another 5 acres of oats for next year; still going to be a minor crop, but there will be a little bit more grown next year. But - that means more are looking to buy seed, so going to be harder to find oats right now.....

Paul

mrs whodunit · #17 03/14/14, 09:58 AM

Oats in our area are selling for $145 a ton so says the newspaper, so that $2.32 a bushel?

rambler · #18 03/14/14, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mrs whodunit

Oats in our area are selling for $145 a ton so says the newspaper, so that $2.32 a bushel?

Assuming a regular 2000# ton, yes.

That is the historic average price of oats over the years.

The high price right now is all about where it is located, and where it is wanted. Its not really a shortage, it is a transportation issue.

Paul

Ziptie · #19 03/14/14, 07:08 PM

So when do you think that they will be able to transport more down this way? When people don't need so much propane or is just not going to let up? Just curious.

farmerDale · #20 03/14/14, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziptie

So when do you think that they will be able to transport more down this way? When people don't need so much propane or is just not going to let up? Just curious.

Long term, when your government allows the keystone to be built, things will get better. Our railways are too busy hauling oil, and not hauling grain. Therefore, our elevator system is plugged, and you guys are bidding up oats, but we can not deliver...

When the pipeline is built, the trains will haul more grain.

Farmers here are desperate to move grain of all kinds, but simply can't because of rail line negligence. Hence, our price is pathetic, and your prices are strong. Cross the border, and bids for wheat is 2 dollars or more per bushel for american farmers. Oats here are just over 2 bucks.

Short term, who knows? It is not in our hands. The rail ways must clear the congestion, we farmers have no power to do a dang thing...