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Old 02/08/14, 03:10 PM
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non melting snow


Friend from Michigan just told me this, so I googled it.
what in blazes. DH just did it. Have fun.
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Old 02/08/14, 11:02 PM
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Monsanto snow!

A small lighter doesn't produce much heat; the heat is absorbed by the snow ball without melting it in that short period of time. The black deposit is soot from the incomplete combustion due to the flame impinging on the cold surface. Odor is also from incomplete combustion: carbon monoxide has an aldehyde smell, sort of like plastic melting.
With the larger torch there is enough heat to overcome the heatsink effect and then some, so the snow melts.
Just don't eat the yellow snow, over where the Huskies go! (Thanx to Frank Zappa)

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Old 02/09/14, 09:06 AM
 
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Saw some of those videos. All that clod kicker says. Obviously brought to the world by folks who are playing with snow for the first time in their lives.

The water content of snow, is not comparable to ice, it is not very dense. In a foot of snow, there may be an inch equivalent of actual moisture. Try filling a gallon bucket with snow, let it melt in the house, and see how much water comes of it.

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Old 02/09/14, 09:34 AM
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so how come the snow here melts ??

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A small lighter doesn't produce much heat; the heat is absorbed by the snow ball without melting it in that short period of time. The black deposit is soot from the incomplete combustion due to the flame impinging on the cold surface. Odor is also from incomplete combustion: carbon monoxide has an aldehyde smell, sort of like plastic melting.
With the larger torch there is enough heat to overcome the heatsink effect and then some, so the snow melts.
Just don't eat the yellow snow, over where the Huskies go! (Thanx to Frank Zappa)

So how do you explain that when I tried it with a snowball here in MA it melted no problem. I used a lighter, just like in the video, and our snow dripped water! no black deposit AT ALL I tried it a few times…all melted!

Also, carbon monoxide, is supposedly colorless, tasteless and odorless…….
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Old 02/09/14, 11:50 AM
 
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wdcutsdaughter,

Did you do exactly what the guy in the video did?

If you noticed, he held the flame along the side of the snowball, not UNDER it. The majority of the heat would go up along the snowball - which would produce the black soot deposit.

If we truly get snow that doesn't melt, it's going to be awful time for the people with gardens - they will have to shovel the snow off their gardens and wait for the sun to warm up the ground before they can plow or plant. (One good thing if this is true, I won't have to mow the yard this year!!)

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Old 02/09/14, 12:33 PM
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This is just another example of how many things are faked so much to show something is real on Youtube. with trickery, camera angles, and even hidden obstacles to make it look real.
The Mythbusters have proved that time and again on their show.

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Old 02/10/14, 04:45 PM
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Snow that doesn't melt... I'm surprised no one has attempted to tie it in with global warming yet. If it were true though, all the farmers would have to build giant cold frames... to grow Snow Peas!

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Old 02/10/14, 05:18 PM
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Too bad the kids are grown up. DD and niece used to love magic trix. Would be a good one.

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