Yall hear bacon/porks gonna get high priced?

FarmboyBill · #1 01/13/14, 10:22 PM

Seems theres a disease that they've been talking about for a year now, but it made the news again last night. Baby pigs get it, and 10% die of it. Don't hurt people tho.
I cant see how a person could get a few sows onto his place and be sure there free of it. Not to mention a boar. Guess it would be safer to AI, But that's RARE. Don't know if they get it from contaminated ground or from the sow.

big rockpile · #2 01/13/14, 10:44 PM

Wonder what it will do with wild ones?

Still wondering if Government is behind all this like they was with Bird Flu in China.

Control the Food control the people.

big rockpile

Wendy · #3 01/14/14, 12:24 AM

Glad my pork went into the butcher today!

TnAndy · #4 01/14/14, 05:50 AM

Some guy on the local Craig's List was advertising he was going to get in some more "good fed pigs" that averaged 250lbs and was selling them for $100.

I emailed to ask how anybody managed to raise a pig to 250lbs and could sell it for that, but never got a response. Figured it was some kind of scam.

Tarheel · #5 01/14/14, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TnAndy

Some guy on the local Craig's List was advertising he was going to get in some more "good fed pigs" that averaged 250lbs and was selling them for $100.

I emailed to ask how anybody managed to raise a pig to 250lbs and could sell it for that, but never got a response. Figured it was some kind of scam.

Yep or relieved some other farmer of his and now trying to turn a quick buck.

haypoint · #6 01/14/14, 06:24 AM

FBB, it isn't 10% fatal to baby pigs, it is 100% fatal. Very contagious to pigs. Also getting spread by the farmers' boots, truckers' boots. Picked up from Livestock auctions, Feed Mills, Coffee Shops, Party Stores. People with the bacteria on them spread it and then others pick it up and track it in to their farms.
Go to the Pork Section and read the sticky about it.
TnAndy, just a CL scam, I'll bet. I responded to a CL ad for an Aluminum horse trailer for $1200, but it was a convoluted way to skin money off fools.

Big Rockpile, I know I shouldn't ask, but how do you figure there was/is a government connection between a virus that spread between birds and people and killed a lot of birds and a few people? Because the government closely monitored it, prepared for a pandemic and it didn't develop, or was it a conspiracy to control world-wide chicken consumption?
Unaware of the diseases and bacterial outbreaks all over the world that has been going on since the beginning of time? Does the US need to go an entire year with no one getting a flu shot for you to see the importance of disease monitoring and vaccination development? We are so sheltered from human and animal diseases in this country, I think we forget the outbreaks around the world.

geo in mi · #7 01/14/14, 08:08 AM

Bacon and pork is high priced already.

geo

Steve in PA · #8 01/14/14, 08:43 AM

I'm sure factory farms had nothing to do with the outbreak.

Usingmyrights · #9 01/14/14, 08:45 AM

I agree, its already high. I used to be able to get really good bacon on sale for about $2.50 a lb, now the crappier bulk packed bacon has gone done in quality and is $3 a lb. I don't even bother with the boxed stuff.

haypoint · #10 01/14/14, 09:00 AM

I think we need to see the lesson here. This disease doesn't effect humans or cattle. But see how it spreads? Sows don't go to the Mall, Coffee Shop, schools or ride planes, trains or automobiles. Millions don't fly into and out of this country daily.
My point is that we are generally careless about disease transmission. The flu that killed millions a hundred years ago could travel the globe a thousand times faster than it did then. That flu turned the body's own immune system against itself, the healthiest died fastest.
It has been going on for nearly a year, yet no one seems to have noticed. We want the government small and out of our lives, yet demand a rapid response to disease outbreaks. Inflatable laboratories? Clone a few hundred scientists to work on the latest outbreak. Or bury our heads in the sand and believe in another government conspiracy.

CIW · #11 01/14/14, 09:01 AM

This has been going on for several years over in China. It will kill whole litters of pigs. As the animal gets bigger they develop the ability to fight it but can still carry the disease.
Closed herds of hogs is probably a direction that may suppress it. Either raising your own boars or better yet AI all the sows.
By the way. Hog futures are trending down the rest of the year.

haypoint · #12 01/14/14, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve in PA

I'm sure factory farms had nothing to do with the outbreak.

They are effected, just as the small operations are. It wasn't caused by large farms. While a disease spreading through a thousand sow operation is more newsworthy than a hundred ten sow operations, the larger operations generally employ better biosecurity than the smaller operations. They have to. The risk of exposure is greater. Clearly the cause is importation of the virus from another country. Who or how will never be known for sure. Put the blame elsewhere and fail to employ biosecurity and you may be a small farm that had something to do with the outbreak.

haypoint · #13 01/14/14, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CIW

This has been going on for several years over in China. It will kill whole litters of pigs. As the animal gets bigger they develop the ability to fight it but can still carry the disease.
Closed herds of hogs is probably a direction that may suppress it. Either raising your own boars or better yet AI all the sows.
By the way. Hog futures are trending down the rest of the year.

So if hog futures are down, meaning the cost of pigs in the future is less, the lower cost of corn is effecting hogs, but the mortality rate isn't expected to effect supplies?

haypoint · #14 01/14/14, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Usingmyrights

I agree, its already high. I used to be able to get really good bacon on sale for about $2.50 a lb, now the crappier bulk packed bacon has gone done in quality and is $3 a lb. I don't even bother with the boxed stuff.

Yup, and gas is up from 47 cents a gallon.....
Bacon has been going up because of demand and the record high cost of corn. Beef is up because of short supply and that makes pork more popular, that in turn increases demand. Price is controlled by demand.

geo in mi · #15 01/14/14, 09:37 AM

Maybe this info would be useful: http://www.farms.com/news/harrisvacc...ted-71143.aspx

Don't forget how the bellboy got fired........

geo

kasilofhome · #16 01/14/14, 11:03 AM

Harris said the company is “definitely” looking at distributing the vaccine internationally in the future.
As of Dec. 17, roughly 770,000 doses had been distributed, mostly in Iowa and North Carolina, and also in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas and South Carolina.
“We want to extend our distribution to other producers, make it more easily available and get that USDA stamp of approval,” Harris said.Harrisvaccines, founded in 2006, employs about 30 people. The company specializes in products for the swine, cattle, equine and farmed shrimp industries.
Harrisvaccines, founded in 2006, employs about 30 people. The company specializes in products for the swine, cattle, equine and farmed shrimp industries, and earlier this year announced plans to expand its vaccine development into the companion pet industry.
www.harrisvaccines.com

sisterpine · #17 01/14/14, 11:44 AM

Am just now beginning to research this one. How frightening it is to see we have evolved yet more problems with our food source. I sincerely think that the general public is the last to know about things like this. Not that I am paranoid LOL, maybe I am. It just seems that the rulers of this planet are able to see way into the future and nothing seems a surprise to them!

Harry Chickpea · #18 01/14/14, 11:44 AM

"Sows don't go to the Mall, Coffee Shop, schools or ride planes, trains or automobiles. Millions don't fly into and out of this country daily."

I'm not so sure about that...

arabian knight · #19 01/14/14, 11:51 AM

Lets just pray that the vaccines companies can come up with a solution and Fast~!

Lazy J · #20 01/14/14, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kasilofhome

Harris said the company is “definitely” looking at distributing the vaccine internationally in the future.
As of Dec. 17, roughly 770,000 doses had been distributed, mostly in Iowa and North Carolina, and also in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas and South Carolina.
“We want to extend our distribution to other producers, make it more easily available and get that USDA stamp of approval,” Harris said.Harrisvaccines, founded in 2006, employs about 30 people. The company specializes in products for the swine, cattle, equine and farmed shrimp industries.
Harrisvaccines, founded in 2006, employs about 30 people. The company specializes in products for the swine, cattle, equine and farmed shrimp industries, and earlier this year announced plans to expand its vaccine development into the companion pet industry.
www.harrisvaccines.com

I'm afraid that the vaccine will not be a cure. This virus is part of the same family as TGE and in the past the TGE vaccines were not very effective in controlling the spread. In addition this virus is different that the run-of-the-mill for several reasons. First, pigs sick with PEDV shed much more virus and for a longer period of time than TGE and other diseases. Secondly, PEDV is a rugged virus that can survive upwards of 4 weeks in a wide range of temperatures and humidities. Thirdly, the veterinary community is not in agreement on the spread of the virus, some say it is only via manure others feel there are aerosol transmissions. Finally, we as an industry have made the assumption that PEDV is a one and done disease, but we are starting to hear of reoccurrences of the disease in sow units.