Question about a wood cookstove and moving.

Vernitta · #1 01/02/14, 06:41 PM

So, here's the deal. My husband, four children, and I are leaving the bay area of CA and heading to a small town outside of Springfield, MO in February. I posted a picture of our kitchen on another thread. We would really really really like a wood cook stove, but know that we don't want to use one during the summer. I noticed that there are some wood cook stoves on Lehman's website that also use gas. On a fluke I decided to check craigslist and found this... http://stockton.craigslist.org/app/4264347155.html Is that a good deal? Based on the prices I'm finding for a brand new one that looks like an awesome deal. Is that a good brand? I can't find much about it online. Could I install that in a mobile home? Is it worth it to cart it across the country, or should we look for one once we get there?

luvrulz · #2 01/02/14, 06:58 PM

I don't think your insurance will cover it in a MH....you could find another in MO - there are a lot of Amish in that area - and you'd save the transportation.....

goatlady · #3 01/02/14, 07:50 PM

I live in an area with AMish and old Order Mennonites and they do NOT sell their stoves! As for that particular stove, since it is also a propane stove there should be no problem with insurance, just do not mention the wood alternative (though that in itself MIGHT void you insurance fire coverage). I installed a wood cook stove and a wood heating stove when I lived in a mobile BUT I built an addition specifically to house these stove and that satisfied the insurance criteria. Just add on a 10 x 10 or larger summer kitchen/pantry/mud room off the back of the mobile and you're set to go.

Molly Mckee · #4 01/02/14, 08:44 PM

If you are not paying to move by the weight of your load, I'd buy it. If moving it will cost you, I would figure out how much, and decide from there. It is not easy to find a stove like that in good condition.

haypoint · #5 01/02/14, 09:25 PM

Insurance company may void coverage for Wood stove in a trailer, but would likely give you grief for a 70 year old propane stove, too. I have heard of places that can install modern safety equipment not found on old gas ranges, but I don't know what is involved. I own a couple wood gas kitchen ranges. One looks like an old wood cookstove and one looks like a 1950 gas range. See them on ebay all the time.

Vernitta · #6 01/02/14, 10:45 PM

Well, weight does play a factor. We are buying a box truck with the intention of selling it later. So, having something realyl heavy will cost more in gas.

Scamming the insurance company isn't our cup of tea. We'll look into ways to safely install it, though.

Thanks so much for the suggestions!

Vernitta · #7 01/02/14, 10:58 PM

Here's a question: Could we tear down where the desk is and install it there? The living room is on the other side. Could we put bricks between the stove and counters or would we have to take out the counters and cabinets?

7thswan · #8 01/03/14, 07:58 AM

That is one nice stove. It is very hard to find a restored stove for that kind of $. Goodtime stove company does it. Go look at their stoves and see what they charge for a restored stove-good thing you'll be sitting down as you do it. As far as your kitchen above. Each ins. company is going to have different complaints about anything they can make up-if they do not want to insure you. For us-it has been everything from our dogs to the logs on the ground waiting to be cut and split(tripping hazard). Something changed in the ins. co. policys, because we/I never had any of these problems before.(ps Dh said you better watch out,he'll buy that stove out from under you!,don't worry,I won't let that happen-we aren't buying any more stoves unless it's the exact one I have my eye on)

Pony · #9 01/03/14, 09:37 AM

Welcome, soon-to-be neighbor!

Are you going to be in Green County, or outside of it? We're in Douglas County (lots of us here in Douglas).

The stove looks to be in nice condition, but I think you can get one in this area for a bit less. You might want to check the Springfield Craigslist, just to get an idea. Don't know if any are listed now, but we found a very nice straight wood cook stove for $400.

No matter where you buy it, be sure to check the woodbox to make sure it's not burnt out.

You should be able to fit a stove into almost any area, as long as you make sure you put cement board on the walls adjoining it, and maintain the minimum requirements for spacing (I think it's 18" on all sides).

Let us know when you'll be arriving.

Vernitta · #10 01/03/14, 11:03 AM

Thank you, Pony! We will be in Green County. We are super excited!! lol That excitement is going to get us through the packing and the move.

I checked Springfield craigslist, but I'm not seeing any in good condition for a cheaper price.

7thSwan, you weren't kidding about those prices!! lol I could get a brand new one cheaper! lol I'll be sure to tell my husband he needs to snatch this up before yours does.

SilverVista · #11 01/03/14, 11:10 AM

Have you heated or cooked with wood before? If it were me, i'd be locating that stove as close to the back door as possible so you don't spend your whole life carrying wood and ashes across the kitchen, and so you can store a supply of kindling and larger pieces near the stove each day. And be prepared for EVERYTHING to be dustier than you ever imagined.

Vernitta · #12 01/03/14, 11:44 AM

No, we've never had a wood burning stove of any sort before. You do bring up a good point.

Pony · #13 01/03/14, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vernitta

Thank you, Pony! We will be in Green County. We are super excited!! lol That excitement is going to get us through the packing and the move.

I checked Springfield craigslist, but I'm not seeing any in good condition for a cheaper price.

7thSwan, you weren't kidding about those prices!! lol I could get a brand new one cheaper! lol I'll be sure to tell my husband he needs to snatch this up before yours does.

Have you looked into some of the newer stoves?

Here's the one after which I lust:

http://www.stovesandmore.com/index.p...ers/flame-view

Question about a wood cookstove and moving. - Homesteading Questions

Question about a wood cookstove and moving. - Homesteading Questions

Raymond James · #14 01/03/14, 12:13 PM

I have a lot of neighbors that use Coleman camp cook stoves in summer or kerosene stoves like the type Lehmans sells. The Coleman stoves green in color with a red fuel bottle uses white gas/ Coleman fuel folds up like a suit case.

Using one of these in summer avoids the heat you do not want that time of year.

If you have a regular modern gas/electric stove leave it and just add a wood fired heating stove for winter.

With a wood stove 24 inches would be best. Add anther layer 3/4 inch of dry wall behind beside the stove floor to ceiling. Then lay a layer of bricks or some type of metal sheeting on top of that. Place fire proof material under the stove. I would use a double or triple wall smoke stack . Get smoke alarms and fire extinguishers.

I have seen a couple of mobile homes with an addition added on to hold the stove.

I would look to buying in Missouri and would not use such an old stove unless rebuilt.

Vernitta · #15 01/03/14, 01:17 PM

The house doesn't come with a stove and we don't have one to take with us. I would rather have just one stove.

Is "restored" not the same as "rebuilt"?

Raymond James · #16 01/03/14, 01:18 PM

Yes restored and rebuilt would be the same.

goatlady · #17 01/03/14, 01:23 PM

Also, wood stoves draw better and are cheaper to pipe when located on an outside house wall. That way you do not have to cut a hole in the roof for the chimmny pipe to exit and have the added expense of a triple wall pipe going through that hole to prevent roof fires. Easier/cheaper to cut the chimmny pipe hole in the outside wall and elbow the pipe up the outside of the house.

wy_white_wolf · #18 01/03/14, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vernitta

The house doesn't come with a stove and we don't have one to take with us. I would rather have just one stove.

Is "restored" not the same as "rebuilt"?

Depends on who is doing the work. I've seen many things that were "restored" but didn't work and things that have been "rebuilt" that function perfictly but are not pretty.

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plowhand · #19 01/03/14, 07:20 PM

Whatever you do, try it out good before you put it in the house. Especially check your gas lines for leaks. Gas and wood combos scare me just thinking about 'em.....wood and electric don't worry me as bad!

Rustaholic · #20 01/03/14, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by goatlady

Also, wood stoves draw better and are cheaper to pipe when located on an outside house wall. That way you do not have to cut a hole in the roof for the chimmny pipe to exit and have the added expense of a triple wall pipe going through that hole to prevent roof fires. Easier/cheaper to cut the chimmny pipe hole in the outside wall and elbow the pipe up the outside of the house.

I do not want to offend here but this is so wrong.
The pipe will draw better if it goes up through the ceiling.
Double wall pipe to help keep the inner pipe hot. A hot chimney draws much better and creates much less creosote.

If you are moving into a house trailer does that mean you are buying it or are you renting it. To make that stove legal the best suggestion you have received was the one that said to add at least a 10 X 10 framed addition and put the stove in there.

That is a wonderful price for a really great stove.
It does get cold enough in Missouri to use the wood parts most of it's shorter Winter than what we get up here in Michigan