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Originally Posted by jennigrey
Wonder what kind of unnatural rubbish they fed em.
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I know exactly what they are feeding them and why they aren't gaining weight. Or at least I think I do.
Nutriad makes stuff called APEX. It is in most of the feedmill feeds now.
Butterball bought a bunch of feedmills here in NC.
And there people are on a lot of committees with the Nutriad people.
APEX.. well, it is a food additive that is listed as organic. It has things like garlic, thyme etc.. to 'help in digestion' for poultry. And they have found ways to disrupt the communication between bacteria etc.. Of course.. digestion is based on bacteria so.....
But it also has Thaumatin (Talin) in it that is thousands of times sweeter than sugar and especially good at hiding bitter/rancid tastes. So that they can use seriously sub-standard, old, rancid adn rotting stuff in their feed. If you smell the bag after the feed is out of it.. bring tears to your eyes. Nasty.
When the feed mills here started adding APEX, we had no easy choice but to go along.
Now.. we have been doing our birds for years and I KNOW what the insides of chickens look like.
OMG! When we butchered the birds raised on the APEX added feed!
They were swollen and purple. They were strange branches of intestines growing off the normal ones; think coral.
Some birds had 'pearls' of intestines that rolled out about the size of green peas.
What the heck!?
They were filled with gas hugely. It was all a horrible mess. I have never seen the weirdness I saw that year and the only thing different was APEX. Then I started researching..the additive, the ingredients, the company etc.. you gotta go deep into the back pages of google to find this stuff. The massive toxis spills in other countries, the fines, the banned components etc.. Crazy.
Then I started hearing about other local farmers having troubles. A big commercial chicken farmer(on contract) had 400 out of 1,000 rejected for 'intestinal abnormalities". I wonder why? Sounds like the same issues we were having.
And I had noticed how thin and small our birds were. No wonder. If your intestines are purple and inflames and all messed up, you can't digest properly or absorb the nutrients etc..
Well... that did it for us! Now I go to the trouble to drive across the state line to buy locally grown feed without that crapola in it.
No more intestinal issues. All the birds look normal once again adn all is as it should be.
Now.. I am guessing that since Butterball adn Nutriad guys are on poultry science committees together and on boards together and since Butterball is a billion dollar business etc.. that they use Nutriad products.
If so.. then the inability to gain weight etc.. makes perfect sense to me.
Off my soap box now, but this particular topic is of great personal interest to me and I did so much research when we had our problems and I hit the research agin the other day when I heard about Butterball.
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