Auction this Saturday - what should I expect to pay for these?

sleuth · #1 10/30/13, 11:12 PM

Considering bidding on some of these. What should I expect to pay?

Aside from what's pictured here... also listed are a

1600 Vermeer Brush Chipper
Taylor Outdoor Commercial Wood Burner

Anything I should look at when evaluating these items, beyond excessive rust, condition of the belts, etc.?

Can anybody tell me anything I should check for and/or know about on the tractor? I'm wanting to use it for my 20 acre homestead, with about 10 acres of tillable land.

sleuth · #2 10/30/13, 11:16 PM

Found the chipper picture.

sleuth · #3 10/30/13, 11:18 PM

I think this is a picture of the woodstove. I'm not sure - not really knowledgeable about them.

**clovis** · #4 10/30/13, 11:27 PM

Having been to 1,000 auctions in my life, I've found that any time I really want something, some rich dude will show up at the auction after driving 400 miles from another state to bid on it.

Nonetheless, ebay is always a good resource to help figure out ballpark values.

Big Dave · #5 10/31/13, 04:31 AM

Same chipper sold at action last month for $1500. 8n or9n sell for 2500 tops and that is if it runs has good rubber and is it converted to 12 volt system. Green house $100,I gave that for two, Disc $300 and I would not give more than $300 foe the brush hog. The other I have no idea about. Hope this helps.

Doug Hodges · #6 10/31/13, 05:02 AM

You can buy 8n's all day long for under 2000 in good condition.

Living the good life

sleuth · #7 10/31/13, 07:01 AM

Any significant difference between a 2n and then a 8/9n?

Phil V. · #8 10/31/13, 12:25 PM

The 8n is the newest of the 3. The 8n has a tach and some upgrades over the 2n and 9n. The 9n is the oldest of the three it came out in 1939 and the 2n came out in 1942.

Waterwheel Farm · #9 10/31/13, 12:58 PM

I'd say the worth of the 8N kinda depends on it's condition and where you live. Around here, if they are in good shape you can't get one for $2000 Serial number on the engine block will tell you what year it is.

What to check for:
-See if it has an alternator, or a generator (12 volt system vs 6 volt)
-Check that the brakes work
-Watch oil pressure when first started cold , should come right up
-Check hydraulics with something attached (bush hog, something of some weight)

I've had an 8N since '99, was my first tractor. Been a good tractor for me, easy to work on, parts everywhere, no special tools required and bolts aren't metric. Has limitations of course, but for a smaller homestead they are just fine.

rambler · #10 10/31/13, 01:51 PM

8N had some improvements over the 9N and 2N, which are very similar. Mostly the 4 speed on the 8N, the 3 speed is quite limiting.

The 3 implements are all around $300-500, unless I want one that day, then some other fool will bid it up to $800.....

Don't know on the chipper.

The tractor I kinda just wouldn't want, they were great in their day, but something from the mid 1950s or newer often doesn't cost much more, if any, and will have better features, be safer. The older 2 of the N series especially, the tranny, hydraulics, pto, even the height of the hitch, all is a tad unsafe and awkward to use.

Live pto, more speeds to choose from, perhaps power steering, live hydraulics, a position 3pt hitch, all are newer features that make operating a tractor a whole lot more fun and safer.

A 9N or 2N are neat tractors to restore and display, and if it is something you have or got from family might as well, but sure are a lot more feature-laden machines out there if you are starting from scratch.

Paul

Jim-mi · #11 10/31/13, 06:07 PM

At a recent auction a very nicely restored 8n with -no- time on the engine-----they noted the Ex manifold discolor as they moved it out of the storage unit-----
Any way nobody would touch the reserve of $2500...
Prices depend on the crowd that shows up......
I have seen very used hand tools go for a buck or too less than you could buy the same thing brand new .....
Another auction a guy paid $65 for a brick of 22's. . . . .go figure . . .

moeh1 · #12 10/31/13, 06:15 PM

2N was built during WWII. No electrical system and a hand crank. nobody here wants em. Disc and bush hog would bring 125-200 around me, the rear finish mower 400-500, chippers run higher but all over the map. Greenhouse would be dear and no clue on a used woodstove, but new they are several thousand.

Yvonne's hubby · #13 10/31/13, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleuth

Any significant difference between a 2n and then a 8/9n?

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Ok, the 2n and 9n are near twins... the one pictured is a 9n. The difference was the 2n was made during the war and some things were rationed. Things like rubber tires, generators and batteries. The 2n was just a 9n without rubber tires and charging starting system. They came with steel wheels, a mag for the ignition, and a crank instead of starter and battery. They are also pretty rare these days, most have them have been cannibalized to keep the more convenient 9ns running. The 8n came later, they had gone back to the electical system, upgraded the engine... finally got rid of that front engine distributor! It also had a better hydraulic system than the previous models. A quick glance from a distance tells you the difference (assuming its all original stuff)... steel wheels... its a 2n, if it has the large brake drums as in the photo... its a 9n, and the 8n had much smaller brake drums, and an axle nut on the rear axles.

as to what you can expect to pay at auction..... thats really easy..... a slightly higher bid than the last bidder.

Awnry Abe · #14 10/31/13, 07:26 PM

2K for the chipper, but that is sight unseen, assuming it is running condition, but not necessarily ready-to-use condition. I'd be most concerned with drive train issues, such as a busted bearing/gear box from someone chunking a brick in it. I would assume that the knives need some help. Good luck, I hope you get the stuff for a song.

**Roadking** · #15 10/31/13, 09:57 PM

Depends on your area.
A 3 cylinder Kubota diesel (smaller one) went for $700 the other week; 5' Woods flail mower and 5' finish mower went for $5 apiece.
Push mowers are over priced.
Firearms are over priced.
Safes, coins, bows, canning jars and supplies are cheap.

Matt

Jim-mi · #16 11/01/13, 08:29 AM

I got rid of my Ferguson TO 20 (much like an 8n--but much better) and really like my 3 cylinder diesel.
I get a lot more work done on far less fuel.............
Better hydroulics
Many more gear options.
The price tag may seem attractive (on the pictured unit). . . BUT . . . .there is a whole lot of other equipment that is far better.......

am1too · #17 11/01/13, 08:48 AM

Would you mind giving us a run down on what these items sold for?

sleuth · #18 11/04/13, 12:20 PM

I'll see what I can remember.

The tractor sold for $1200. Would have gone higher but the guy flooded the engine or something when he tried to start it and they couldn't get it going. I didn't bid becaused based on comments here I'll wait until a good deal on a 8N comes along.

The chipper sold for 2k.
The disk sold for $150.
The other implements all sold for $250-$400.

The 2 greenhouses went for $400 each. Was disappointed they went that high. They were 12' x 50'.

Don't remember on the woodstove. I didn't buy much. I got 2 earthway seeders for $45 ea. I think prices were high on a lot of things because there was a heavy Amish contingent there. I couldn't compete without serious budgetary damages.

TnAndy · #19 11/04/13, 04:28 PM

I gave $35 bucks for a 6' Woods finish mower recently at an auction. Didn't even want it, but dang if I was gonna let it go for the opening bid of 25 !

On the other hand, I've seen fairly junk tools go for more than new price...

You simply never know about auctions.......

Yvonne's hubby · #20 11/04/13, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TnAndy

I gave $35 bucks for a 6' Woods finish mower recently at an auction. Didn't even want it, but dang if I was gonna let it go for the opening bid of 25 !

On the other hand, I've seen fairly junk tools go for more than new price...

You simply never know about auctions.......

Yeppers, at an auction most anything can happen, it all depends on the day, who shows up wanting what. I think my worst auction experience was the time I held an auction to sell a house.... NOBODY showed up but the auctioneer and myself. We had a good crowd at two other house auctions that day, plenty of bidders and the other two sold for very good price.