Okay-what about THIS tractor?

PrettyPaisley · #1 10/06/13, 07:37 PM

A 1948 (maybe) Farmall 140.

See the pics. There is also a couple of plows (they seem really small) and a large bar that goes across the back that you can add a trailer hitch to.

I jumped on it, the man showed me how to use the clutch and gas and choke, as well as how to use the culivators. He let me drive it all around the yard and then I asked if I could try out the culivator in a tilled up garden behind the house and he told me to drive it anywhere I wanted.

Unlike my Ford -it was a BLAST to drive! And I felt like I could actually *do* something with it. When I sit on the Ford I just go back and forth - there is nothing else I can do with it. And it surely doesn't move as fast at the Farmall! I was used to shifting with my right hand and not my left, but after shifting up to 3rd I figured I would never have a need for 4th unless I was wearing a crash helmet. It was FAST!

$2400. Is it worth that?

SO is worried it's too old. It's as old as my MIL - but she is still going strong!!!

I *really* like this tractor!

Okay-what about *THIS* tractor? - Homesteading Questions

I have more pictures if needed.

jwal10 · #2 10/06/13, 07:41 PM

What are you going to use it for? No 3pt for a rear mower. Not a lot of power. You would need to buy implements made for this tractor where your little Ford will use any implement that is sized for it....James

simi-steading · #3 10/06/13, 07:46 PM

Yep.. you're limited to old 2pt implements. Also the offset PTO limits you even more.. I'm also noticing the rear tire sizes are mismatched.. The older tire isn't as tall..

If I wanted a cool tractor to restore, this would probably be it, but if I wanted a tractor to do work around the farm, I'd find something more modern with a three point hitch, and if possible a two stage clutch for the pto.

PrettyPaisley · #4 10/06/13, 07:51 PM

Wait!
They said there was a 3 point hitch! PTO yes- but that there was a way to use 3 pt hitch attachments with it! Is that not right?

PrettyPaisley · #5 10/06/13, 07:53 PM

I need a belly mount mower and that's about it. I just need it to till and cultivate the garden and mow the yard (our yard "tractor" had gone through 4 belts in 2 seasons with all the mowing that has to be done) and I'd use the Farmall for maybe bush hogging 2x a year. Or ... if possible, planting the pasture in the fall.

Darn it. I LOATHE that Ford. It's ugly, ugly, ugly !!!!

simi-steading · #6 10/06/13, 07:54 PM

Sure.. you can make anything work if you put your mind to it... but why hassle with it when tractors are all over the place for sale..

I've restored an old Farmall Low Boy.... they are cool tractors, but nothing I would have as my only tractor...

simi-steading · #7 10/06/13, 07:55 PM

LOL.. ugly doesn't matter.. What it can do is what matters.. I've got about a 76 Ford 2000. .. It's ain't pretty, but it gets the job done, and it's very reliable..

plowhand · #8 10/06/13, 08:13 PM

They made 3 point kits for 140's, and if you are planting a big garden, it's good for gardening, real good for cultivating. Down here in tobacco country, they'll bring $3500to $5500, or they would a few years ago.
They have a onepoint fast hitch for those models, if the fella doesn't have it , and has the 3 point adapter you can find more equipment.
If you all ready have a Ford, then the only thing it'd do better is cultivate, because you can watch what you're plowing while you're plowing.

I don't think they started making the 140 till the early sixtys. The A was 1st, then the Super-A, then 100, then 130, then 140 till 1979, and then they made a diesel 274, basically a 140 with different sheet metal, and a 3 point.

It's hard to say what shape the motor, gears and brakes are in, but it looks like it's in good physical shape. Does he have fertilize set, the rest of the cultivators, like hiller blades, buzzard wings, king weeders, rolling cultivators, for example...
I can't see a place to put the top link of a 3 point in the photo. On most of the one row Farmalls it is in the center of the rockshaft on the back.....most are welded on..they may have a different after market kit.
I'm curious as to why you can't do any thing but go back and forth on your Ford, we worked alsmost 200 acres with an 801 Ford, brother still has it.

FarmboyBill · #9 10/06/13, 08:14 PM

I can tell you for sure, that that tractor is in the mid 50s to early 60s range. Is the cultivators all you get? The drawbar should be in a C shape, should have alotta holes in it. There MIGHT be a straight drawbar also, that fits forward to back.
CT Farm &Home sells a 3pt hitch for the 140.
Im not to sure the tires aren't the same size, LOOKING at the 2nd picture, It looks to be in great shape, looking at it, and the seat looks new. $2,400 is in the median. You might drive it down to $2,000 IF your lucky.
For what you SAY you want it for, It will work GREAT. IF and when you find you need a bigger tractor, It will still be greart for what you say you NOW need it for.
As to the plows. Im amazed that it would have a pair of plows. I would have assumed that it would have one 14in plow. Id be amazed if it pulled 2 12s. You might ask the guy to put the plows on it and plow UNPLOWED ground. IOF it does it fine. If not., It will still mow, and cultivate your garden and yard. Youll have to buy a belly mower and a pulley wheel for the PTO.

plowhand · #10 10/06/13, 08:24 PM

Why don't you get a used grooming mower to go behind the Ford, what model is it?
A belly mower on the Farmall, well you won't want to take it off to plow your garden and back on to mow very often. It is a job.

Which ever you use, you need to get a over-running clutch for the farm-all or the ford if it doesn't have a live pto. It keeps the bush hog from pushing the tractor forward after you mashing your clutch...really need it any pto for the farmall, and maybe for your ford....

FarmboyBill · #11 10/06/13, 08:24 PM

Id agree with all that PH has said.

PrettyPaisley · #12 10/06/13, 08:25 PM

Okay-so the plows I was talking about are small. Like really small. Like you can hold all 3 in one hand at once. Does that make sense?

I figure that it might not dig up new ground well. I would need to rent a disc to enlarge my garden but I wouldn't need to break new ground often, if ever. I saw some You Tube videos of the pully wheel so I'm with you on that. I just need to research and learn more.

I will tell you, I really don't want to drive the price down with this man. He is dying and I couldn't barely speak with him tonight without crying. I did just meet him and I didn't let on that I knew he was sick so when he told me I couldn't hold back the tears. And nice - boy was he a nice man. While I know money doesn't grow on trees, I don't mind paying his asking price as he is about to leave a wife a widow.

And MAN did I like driving that tractor!

The Ford is not smooth, it is not easy and I don't understand the shifting. This one, his son showed me one time how to make it go and I did! I could - it was so stinking easy! So with the Ford I have no attachments, and I can get attachments ... it just seems so cumbersome and I am clueless. I can't even read the gears on the Ford-on this one I can still see all I need to see. The gas control makes sense, the choke, the clutch ... the only thing I don't get is having two brakes but I really didn't want to practice in his yard, you know? I didn't want to knock down a tree ... it moved fast and smooth.

I took a picture of the bar. I'll post it asap.

FarmboyBill · #13 10/06/13, 08:26 PM

CT Wants $500 with taxes for a new 3pt

Johnny Dolittle · #14 10/06/13, 08:28 PM

The 140 was sometime after the Super A which was around 1953. That one does not have fast hitch but can be fitted with a 3 point hitch conversion but a kit might be expensive. Off-set tractors are much better for cultivating but other than that your Ford might be more practical for other chores. $2400 is all the 140 is worth. They are a good tractor with enough power for their size. Changing implements is time and labor intensive and takes a person with some strength .... maybe not a woman's tractor !!!

FarmboyBill · #15 10/06/13, 08:29 PM

er? The Ford has 2 brakes, There on the R side. Clutch on the right. The 140, like my 50 Cub, has them all together, side by side. Clutch inside, and both brakes beside it,

PrettyPaisley · #16 10/06/13, 08:31 PM

FarmboyBill · #17 10/06/13, 08:31 PM

Yeah, you might want to try taking off the cultivators yourself to see what it takes. You couldn't use them with the 3 pt hitch mounted at the same time.
Im wondering if, instead of plows, your talking about some different type of cultivator schovels.

FarmboyBill · #18 10/06/13, 08:32 PM

yep. Mounts the same as my Cub.

PrettyPaisley · #19 10/06/13, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle

The 140 was sometime after the Super A which was around 1953. That one does not have fast hitch but can be fitted with a 3 point hitch conversion but a kit might be expensive. Off-set tractors are much better for cultivating but other than that your Ford might be more practical for other chores. $2400 is all the 140 is worth. They are a good tractor with enough power for their size. Changing implements is time and labor intensive and takes a person with some strength .... maybe not a woman's tractor !!!

Hey now. I'm not just any woman!

FarmboyBill · #20 10/06/13, 08:34 PM

yeah. if hes in the shape you say, He ll need all the money he can get for her. U got a good heart. Buy the tractor. Sounds like it will make both of you happy.

Okay-what about *THIS* tractor?

Okay-what about THIS tractor?