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Old 07/17/13, 08:16 PM
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Anyone poison coyotes like this?

http://agrilife.org/texnatwildlife/c...ection-collar/
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Old 07/17/13, 08:24 PM
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Not me. Poison is way too indiscriminate for me to ever use it. Even in a targeted method of delivery like this, I'd wonder about spills, accidental ruptures of the containment that might be licked by another one of my animals, or even the poison residue in the carcass of the poisoned coyote.
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Old 07/17/13, 08:33 PM
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I think poisoning any mammal is inhumane...even mice.

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Old 07/17/13, 08:45 PM
 
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Nope, poison, NOPE! Won't do it, mice get caught in snap traps, varmits in live traps and LDGs to keep away the Yotes!

I don't trust poison in my garden why would I willingly put it on my livestock?
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Nope, I'll give em a lead pill though. We had a large pack of them just north of me that were quite vocal but caused me no problems, haven't heard em in a couple of months though, I'm starting to think they moved out or someone killed em off.

Most folks around me use Pyrenees or donkeys and the occasional alpaca.
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Here, they get rowdy, someone calls in the game ranger, and he sets out traps and then, you don't hear them anymore for a couple months.
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Old 07/18/13, 05:30 AM
 
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The linked site is factually wrong with regards to foothold traps, fails to disclose that the protected animal will likely die during the coyote attack, ignores non-vector poisonings from damage to the bladders, and uses emotional appeal phrasings like "perfect justice".

But, it does have some merit, and has been in use a long time. It would be quite expensive to equip all livestock with such a collar. But, leaving one bait animal out with such a collar on might work.
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Old 07/18/13, 06:37 AM
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Here, they get rowdy, someone calls in the game ranger, and he sets out traps and then, you don't hear them anymore for a couple months.
Around here you can't go anywhere without seeing posters up in the feed stores and grocery stores.

"Have a coyote or wild hog problem? I'll come hunt them for free!"

I don't know if the yahoos who do that sort of thing are any good, but in the past when I've had predator problems I just bring the animals in closer at night and then shoot the offending predators when they come in for food.

There's a pack of coyotes that live up on the rim of the valley and I hear them every night, but they've not caused me any trouble so far as I know and I haven't heard any complaints about them from the neighbors. The man whose land they're on keeps cattle and he seems to like having them up there.
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Old 07/18/13, 10:36 AM
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Nope. I don't use poison for anything. Not even mice. Killing something, anything is a decision that shouldn't be made lightly and, if you do choose to kill something, you should responsible for taking care of the body.
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We had a coyote under our house, shot it. Had 2 sneaking outta the woods toward my ducks @ 10 in the morning with us sitting on the deck talking, I yelled & they ran. Dh has sat out hoping to get a shot at them, but of course, they haven't been back, yet. I hear them every night, there seems to be an abundance of them this year. I actually kind of like listening to them, just don't want them in the yard, eating my ducks, or under my house! Thought about trying to trap them, even bought a trap, can't bring myself to want to use it because I'm afraid I'll get one of the neighbor's pets or a cat or something else in it. Poison? NOPE! WAY to indiscriminate.
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Old 07/18/13, 12:26 PM
 
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That has to be 1 of the dumbest things I've seen lately.

Plus poisons can kill unintended other animals that may eat the original poisoned
animal. So in the process of killing the coyote you may also kill some birds of prey
and that will get you jail time.
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Around here you can't go anywhere without seeing posters up in the feed stores and grocery stores.

"Have a coyote or wild hog problem? I'll come hunt them for free!"

I don't know if the yahoos who do that sort of thing are any good, but in the past when I've had predator problems I just bring the animals in closer at night and then shoot the offending predators when they come in for food.
While I don't have signs up in the feed and grocery stores, I'm one of those yahoos
that will come out and help take care of predator problems.
Folks that need help usually call me up out of the blue.
Lots of folks aren't capable of dealing with predator problems on their own for 1
reason or another. Age and health issues are 2 of them. Others work full time plus
farm and may not be around when they need to be. Others may not want to do the
deed themselves.

And no, I never charge a dime but will accept a glass of water, cup of coffee or a
coke for services rendered.
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Old 07/18/13, 12:39 PM
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While I don't have signs up in the feed and grocery stores, I'm one of those yahoos
that will come out and help take care of predator problems.
Folks that need help usually call me up out of the blue.
Lots of folks aren't capable of dealing with predator problems on their own for 1
reason or another. Age and health issues are 2 of them. Others work full time plus
farm and may not be around when they need to be. Others may not want to do the
deed themselves.

And no, I never charge a dime but will accept a glass of water, cup of coffee or a
coke for services rendered.
And I suppose it's fun. Hunting is always fun.
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There's a club of coyote hunters in my area. They mainly use dogs to run them down, but if you have a real infestation they'll put out snares with stops on them. I'd never use poison.
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And I suppose it's fun. Hunting is always fun.
Not always and especially if you are after livestock killers.
Or going after hogs that are tearing up everything in sight.

Plus this time of year you get chewed up by ticks and chiggers.
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had one out here that got my neighbour cat came back later that week looking for a snack and got one from a 7mm magnum a little overkill but he liked his cat
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As soon as you get rid of one bunch of coyotes another bunch will move in. I've seen this happen near where I live. Farmers that have time in the fall and winter will hunt for them to get rid of them. I know several guys that has lots of money wrapped up in hunting equipment for coyote hunting because that's all they do.
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As soon as you get rid of one bunch of coyotes another bunch will move in. I've seen this happen near where I live. Farmers that have time in the fall and winter will hunt for them to get rid of them. I know several guys that has lots of money wrapped up in hunting equipment for coyote hunting because that's all they do.
Everybody needs a hobby.
My wife looks at it this way, better that I'm off in the fields and woods hunting coyotes
then in a bar looking for cougars.
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Old 07/22/13, 11:15 AM
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Yeah, that doesn't sound very humane either... i know chief,but coys aint to humane with livestock,domestic animals,or children,i aint looking to make friends with em. you want dead coys,thats the best way i found,aint pretty but its pretty effective
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Old 07/22/13, 09:25 PM
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I have heard the treble hook/meat deal for years, I have never talked to anyone who will admit to actually doing it though, it is always a friend of a friends buddy did this. Well there are numerous problems with the whole deal, first how are you going to secure the hook, coyotes will chew through 3/32nd aircraft cable, fishing line sure isn't going to hold them, next this method is about as target specific as a nuclear bomb, you take a chance on catching everything from the neighbors dog to a black bear.

At least the LPC collar is target specific in that in order to get the poison dose the animal has to be attacking the animal wearing the collar. So you know what you killed was a stock killer. I think though that these were an idea that really never took off because of the expense, the paperwork/training, and the limited opportunity of use. It seems that the M44 is still the most prevalent method of dispensing toxins to coyotes but it is still a limited use tool.

The foothold trap, snare, calling, denning and aerial gunning account for the majority of coyotes taken by predator control officers. I don't think any of them are using a 3/0 treble hook and a hunk of ribeye.
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