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06/20/13, 11:28 AM
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Breraking rollar chain
Ive never delt with breakeing roller chain. I got a chain breaker. It shoves the pin out around a 32 of an inch. How do I get it out past that??
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06/20/13, 11:41 AM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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I always just used a small punch.
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06/20/13, 11:43 AM
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If you are replacing or fixing one, there is probably already a connecting link in the chain. They are hard to see, anyway, so you need to clean the grease off of the chain. Look carefully down the both sides of the chain for a "clip" on the side of one length. (don't lose the clip)
All the other links will be bradded on both sides, but this one will be bradded over on just one side. Remove the clip and that link will slide sideways out of the chain. You can buy chain and connecting links at a machine shop (better) or a farm store.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwBA&dur=585
if there is no connecting link (there usually is) grind the bradded end off one side of one link, remove it, and then get a connecting link to re-attach chain.
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06/20/13, 12:20 PM
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I know how to fix/splice one together. I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE PIN OUT OF ONE. Ive never seen a punch that thin. A nail wont even work. on #40 chain.
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06/20/13, 12:22 PM
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My breaker will push the pin through one layer of link, then you can pivot the link - with light force - to allow the narrow link to slide out.
Otherwise, a punch and hammer will push the pin through. Some times it is faster to grind the link pin flush, and pound the pin down with a punch,rather than look for and deal with the chain breaker. Depends if the grinder or the breaker is in the shed I'm in.....
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06/20/13, 12:26 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
I know how to fix/splice one together. I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE PIN OUT OF ONE. Ive never seen a punch that thin. A nail wont even work. on #40 chain.
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If you dont have a punch, just use a screwdriver and pry it apart from the back side.
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06/20/13, 12:43 PM
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Well, I was wrong. a cut in 1/2 nail worked,
BUT NOW, I cant get the master.link to splice the ends together to go into the holes in the C ends. It goes in the hole at the other end of the chain fine. I don't have a drill bit that size. Hate to go into town for a drill bit that size lol
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06/20/13, 12:50 PM
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I suspect the chain is hardened and drilling wont work. usually the link will fit in both ends. The chain may be damaged.
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06/20/13, 01:09 PM
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Do they make a pin so that I can just put the ends together without having to add a 1/2 or full link to the chain.?
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06/20/13, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
Do they make a pin so that I can just put the ends together without having to add a 1/2 or full link to the chain.?
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I can't wrap my mind around the question here?
Repair/ mender/ connector/ master link.
The regular links of chain, one is skinny, one is fat, you always need a skinny one at each end.
And half links, which are miserable, weak, but sometimes needed, fat on one end, skinny on the other.
I don't know what sort of pin you are asking about.
Paul
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06/20/13, 02:05 PM
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Rambler, I have broke the chain. it fits perfectly together without a master or 1/2 link. My question is, Do they make an individual pin so that I could re connect the chain without a added link?
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06/20/13, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
I know how to fix/splice one together. I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE PIN OUT OF ONE. Ive never seen a punch that thin. A nail wont even work. on #40 chain.
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You sure you're a farm boy?
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06/20/13, 02:11 PM
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Not to my knowledge.
A lot of times a chain in that shape is kinda well worn all the way around, and #40 isn't that expensive to replace it all.
To repair, take out pieces to get to 2 good skinny pieces on the ends, and replace with 2 menders and a hunk of new links between.
It might be possible to replace with one half link and a mender, depending on what broke and how much adjustment (slack) was in the works.
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06/20/13, 02:19 PM
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Chain links are made of 2 portions the roller segment and the connector links connecting the roller segments together you must have both to have a workable chain. sounds like you need a half link and a slack adjuster.
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06/20/13, 02:42 PM
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Yeah CR. I suppose that's what ill have to go with. I have both. Cant get the pin in the open ends, but ill finger that out.
AS to me being a farm boy. Alla my stuff is so old that its only got flat chain other than my bailer, corn picker and combine,. ive never had to fool with it before. Im replaceing the roller chain on my bailer.
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06/20/13, 03:09 PM
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If you are breaking the chain you will be ruining at least one connector link. The master link should replace that. Your chain should be the same length when you are done.
If you can't get the connector link to fit you have the wrong link. An old chain should be slopped out enough that fitting wouldn't be a problem for a new proper connecting link.
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Do they make an individual pin so that I could re connect the chain without a added link?
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are you breaking the chain properly? You need to push both the pins out of the wider connecting link and remove it. If you are try to push a new master link through the old hole in the connecting link it'll never work.
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06/20/13, 03:12 PM
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By open ends I guess your meaning the connector links remove the pins holding these and use a master link.
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06/20/13, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coolrunnin
By open ends I guess your meaning the connector links remove the pins holding these and use a master link.
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That does sound correct to me. When you broke the chain there should have been two pins to take out and the plate they were fastened to on the back side. This leaves you with the two center rollers, one on each end of the chain. to put it back together, you use a master link, push the two pin on it through the two rollers, put the outside plate over the pins, and then fasten the clip over the pins. be sure the clip seats well around both pins, and make sure the "tails" of it are pointed opposite the direction the chain travels.
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06/20/13, 03:44 PM
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Maybe you need to shorten the chain because it stretched. Take out two links and then add a master. Now the chain will be one link shorter.
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06/20/13, 04:06 PM
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THIS IS A brand new roll of #40 chain. I just went to TSC and they didn't have 1/2 links that size. I only took out 1 pin to get the length I needed.
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