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04/23/13, 11:48 AM
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What is the value of a cord of unseasoned oak? **Pic added**
My dad's neighbor had some oak trees cut down and he's split them, put them in a pile in his yard and told my dad to call me to take some. I'm not sure how much we'll be able to take but I loaded my minivan as full as I was comfortable with and will be going back in a bit to get another load. The wood is GORGEOUS - solid oak and split perfectly. It is not seasoned so I'll let it season for a year or so before we'll use it. I was wondering what the value of this would be because depending on how much we're able to take (there are at least 2.5 cords of wood in the pile - not sure if we can take it all or some of it), I'm going to give him a gift card to a local restaurant. I'm thinking if I get a full cord out of this, I'll get him a $100 gift card but I'm not sure what the value of this is.
MAN, what a gift!!!!! 
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Last edited by Annsni; 04/23/13 at 02:23 PM.
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04/23/13, 12:14 PM
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How much does seasoed oak sell for in your area? I would say its worth 50-75% of the price of a seasoned cord
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04/23/13, 12:21 PM
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Honestly, all we can get is "hardwood" cords - without them specifying what wood is in there. I've NEVER seen a full cord of oak for sale.
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04/23/13, 12:26 PM
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Folks get $110-130 per cord delivered around here. Sometimes wet, sometimes somewhat dry.
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04/23/13, 12:32 PM
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Where are you located? In West Central Missouri a cord of seasoned oak delivered is $100. Location is highly dependant. If you are comfortable with a $100 gift card it sounds good to me.
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04/23/13, 12:36 PM
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We're on Long Island. I checked out Craigslist and found one ad for unseasoned split oak and it was $250 (they said seasoned is going for $300-350). There were a LOT of free listings but that's thanks to Sandy. You can come to their house and pick up the 200 lb. slabs that they have and split it yourself for free. LOL I have to say that there's been a lot of free wood around here since October!
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04/23/13, 01:45 PM
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85 for a full cord of unseasoned oak around here. Can get it in 12 cord truckloads. Cut split and seasoned around 150-160 per full cord
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04/23/13, 01:46 PM
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About $200 here. If I want to deliver 30 miles to the southeast, $300.
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04/23/13, 02:01 PM
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Most of the people I have purchased firewood from don't have the least idea what a cord of firewood is, or they come up with weird definitions to cover the fact that they are selling less than a chord. There is a strict definition for a cord of wood that is a forestry term and has been around for years. It is a stack of wood 4 feet wide, four feet high, and eight feet long. If we were taking about 24 inch wood that would be two rows 4 feet high and eight feet long. If 16" wood that would be three rows of that size.
I don't know of a pickup truck around any more that would carry a cord anymore. An old pickup truck with an eight foot bed and side boards and extended tail gate would have to have wood stacked tightly 4 ' high to be a cord.
IF , in fact, what you are speaking of is a chord, then a chord of good clean split oak would be well worth $100 almost anyplace. Especially since lots people are selling wood that they call "seasoned" which are really the branches off logged trees that have been laying in the woods , not cut up, for 3 years, wet, and half rotten, and only cut a few days before they sell it.
A cord of wood like you described and kept covered once you get it would be ideal.
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04/23/13, 02:03 PM
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This guy has 5 stacks of wood and in two trips there, we've gotten about 2/3 of one of the stacks.  He's got a TON of wood and I'm willing to take it all if he's willing to give it all away. It's easily over 2 cords. If we can get a lot more, I'm going to ask a friend to bring his pickup and then we'll split the wood (he has a wood stove).
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04/23/13, 02:17 PM
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Here's what I have so far. This is two runs in my minivan. I didn't want to overload it so we didn't take a ton each time. You can see my crappy wood next to it - mostly debris from the yard over the last year or so.
Here's a close-up of it.
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04/23/13, 03:24 PM
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A cord of wood is 4' x 4' x 8'. Face cords or ricks are 4' high x 8' width x length of the wood (usually 16").
Unseasoned hardwood in this area sells for $90/cord, delivered in 12 cord loads.
Face cords of dry wood generally sell for $80 - $100. In this area, oak takes a minimum of 2 years to dry....After it is cut & split.
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04/23/13, 03:32 PM
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Around this area it would run $50-65 for unseasoned hard wood like that.
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04/23/13, 05:19 PM
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We pay $65 a cord, but the load is a mix of hardwoods with a little pine thrown in.
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04/23/13, 05:29 PM
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A pure cord of oak seasoned or not brings a premium. You get what you pay for. This is a gift, so be thankful, and happy being generous knowing you're very much the better for the gift. An average cord brings $110-130 per face cord here. All oak would bring more dry or not.
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04/23/13, 06:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross
A pure cord of oak seasoned or not brings a premium. You get what you pay for. This is a gift, so be thankful, and happy being generous knowing you're very much the better for the gift. An average cord brings $110-130 per face cord here. All oak would bring more dry or not.
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I'm so tickled with this gift of wood! I can't believe he went and split it all (it's a LOT of wood) and is just giving it away! But I'm not going to question it - just load it and pile it.  My dad's other neighbor said that he's looking to unload the whole thing which to me looks to be at least 2 full cords of wood. What a score that would be! I know it won't be ready for a while but heck, when it's fully seasoned, we're set for quite some time!
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04/23/13, 07:39 PM
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A cord of seasoned red oak ( 20% moisture content ) has about ( charts vary somewhat ) 24 million BTU.
If you burn it in decent stove ( say 70% efficient......my Regency claims 84%, and based on how little creosote I clean out at year end, I believe it ), you'd net about 17 million BTU.
#2 fuel oil has 138,000/gal....assuming your furnace/boiler is 85% efficient, you'd net about 117k/gallon.....meaning a cord of red oak is equal to ( 17 million divided by 117,000 ) about 145 gallons of #2 fuel oil.
( You can use the BTU figures to compare to other fuels if you heat with something else )
What's fuel oil selling for in your area ( the Northeast uses fuel oil a lot for heating )......3 bucks a gallon ?
Then a cord of red oak has the fuel value of 145gal x $3, or $435.
Actually, about 25-30% more by the time you EARN 500-600 bucks to have $435 left to buy oil, since this wood is free to you.
That's the REAL value of it.
As for what it sells for here in Tennessee, who knows ?
1. Nobody knows what a cord is....( 128cuft of tight stacked wood, no matter HOW you stack it ).....they all sell by the "pickup load", which is impossible to compare to anything.
2. You'd be hard pressed to get a load of pure oak....usually 'mixed hardwoods', and that included yellow poplar, since it IS a hardwood.
Even when I cut for myself, it's mixed hardwood.....heavy to red,white, and chestnut oak, with some hickory and locust thrown in, and occasional red maple. I won't bother with poplar, burns too quick to justify cutting/splitting.
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04/23/13, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TnAndy
A cord of seasoned red oak ( 20% moisture content ) has about ( charts vary somewhat ) 24 million BTU.
If you burn it in decent stove ( say 70% efficient......my Regency claims 84%, and based on how little creosote I clean out at year end, I believe it ), you'd net about 17 million BTU.
#2 fuel oil has 138,000/gal....assuming your furnace/boiler is 85% efficient, you'd net about 117k/gallon.....meaning a cord of red oak is equal to ( 17 million divided by 117,000 ) about 145 gallons of #2 fuel oil.
( You can use the BTU figures to compare to other fuels if you heat with something else )
What's fuel oil selling for in your area ( the Northeast uses fuel oil a lot for heating )......3 bucks a gallon ?
Then a cord of red oak has the fuel value of 145gal x $3, or $435.
Actually, about 25-30% more by the time you EARN 500-600 bucks to have $435 left to buy oil, since this wood is free to you.
That's the REAL value of it.
As for what it sells for here in Tennessee, who knows ?
1. Nobody knows what a cord is....( 128cuft of tight stacked wood, no matter HOW you stack it ).....they all sell by the "pickup load", which is impossible to compare to anything.
2. You'd be hard pressed to get a load of pure oak....usually 'mixed hardwoods', and that included yellow poplar, since it IS a hardwood.
Even when I cut for myself, it's mixed hardwood.....heavy to red,white, and chestnut oak, with some hickory and locust thrown in, and occasional red maple. I won't bother with poplar, burns too quick to justify cutting/splitting.
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That's great info!! Thanks!! I can't wait to find out just how much of this wood we can take. I have one more trip at least in my minivan but if he says we can take it all, I'm going to get a friend who has a big pickup and split it with him.
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04/23/13, 08:29 PM
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I charge $65 for a rick. A cord is $120. That is delivered and stacked. I can buy a rick for $35- $50 if I pick it up at the source.
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04/23/13, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Annsni
My dad's neighbor had some oak trees cut down and he's split them, put them in a pile in his yard and told my dad to call me to take some. I'm not sure how much we'll be able to take but I loaded my minivan as full as I was comfortable with and will be going back in a bit to get another load. The wood is GORGEOUS - solid oak and split perfectly. It is not seasoned so I'll let it season for a year or so before we'll use it. I was wondering what the value of this would be because depending on how much we're able to take (there are at least 2.5 cords of wood in the pile - not sure if we can take it all or some of it), I'm going to give him a gift card to a local restaurant. I'm thinking if I get a full cord out of this, I'll get him a $100 gift card but I'm not sure what the value of this is.
MAN, what a gift!!!!!
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Go to the restaurant you want to give the card from and make it for the most expensive items on the with beverages and desert for two. If you want to equal the value of the wood it would easily come to as much as $350 in my neck of the woods. A hundred fifty miles south it could be 5 bills.
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