Saw the other side of meth

just_sawing · #1 04/10/13, 02:14 PM

Met a woman with two daughters who had to go in hiding yesterday. Husband strung out on meth and theathing her. The local police told her that they could do nothing to him unless he was making. She has an order of protection witch he broke in the presents of the police but they did nothing. She has disappeared from the world until the court date.
It is a shame for I understand he was a decent guy in the beginning but now it is only meth.

Awnry Abe · #2 04/10/13, 03:51 PM

It's real bad stuff. I've got some friends messed up with it. At least they were friends. If they ever bounce back, they still will be.

txplowgirl · #3 04/10/13, 03:56 PM

Protection orders are not worth the paper their written on. She better hide good and have some protection of her own.

MO_cows · #4 04/10/13, 04:05 PM

People go crazy on that stuff, don't they. So many lives ruined. That woman had better figure out how to protect herself because orders of protection seem to work better when someone gets one out of spite against a person who doesn't deserve it, than to actually protect someone who needs it.

BigHenTinyBrain · #5 04/10/13, 04:22 PM

So how is this the other side of meth? Sounds like it's the same old bad side.

FarmboyBill · #6 04/10/13, 04:52 PM

Yup hen. I thought there was only one side to it. ALL BAD

joebill · #7 04/10/13, 04:53 PM

nothing I ever saw good about it......Joe

anette · #8 04/10/13, 06:15 PM

I think by "the other side", sawing was referring to non-users and the effects on them as opposed to users.

bad stuff, all around... many lives are wrecked, and users selfishly say it hurts no one but themselves

where I want to · #9 04/10/13, 06:28 PM

Unmitigated ugly. Poisons the place where it's made and the people who use it.
Why does anyone ever start it? It's not like it's not clear where it goes.

coup · #10 04/10/13, 06:43 PM

i believe everyone on meth started with pot.........i believe these are your zombie;s...........................

salmonslayer · #11 04/10/13, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by coup

i believe everyone on meth started with pot.........i believe these are your zombie;s...........................

Your beliefs are seriously misguided. Meth crosses all social strata and there has been no demonstrated link to Marianna use; most pot smokers dont use Meth, some Meth users smoke pot and some dont. The danger with your thinking that Meth will only strike "pot heads" is that a significant percentage of Meth users come out of educated working people with no prior involvement with other drugs or the law. Its highly addictive and really only takes one or two times and a serious addiction develops.

The downward spiral can be rapid but just like Heroin users, there are a lot of Meth users out there who still maintain jobs, arent skinny with bad teeth, and who arent out stealing to support their habit. But make no mistake, using it takes a terrible toll on their health and their future and more and more HS kids are using Meth.

But if you want to talk about Zombies, look up Bath Salts.

Bret4207 · #12 04/11/13, 06:36 AM

Here we go again. Pot is absolutely benign, no one ever goes from pot to hard drugs. Give me a break, it's not true. They start with beer and pot and the sky is the limit. If you never went past pot, good for you, but it's still not good for you or society.

ceresone · #13 04/11/13, 07:46 AM

My thoughts? If you dont mind breaking the law for one-then why stop at one?

BKB HOMESTEAD · #14 04/11/13, 08:02 AM

There are safe houses out there for women and children in these situations. She should contact her doctor's office who can refer her to such a place where she and her children will be safe and their needs met. She is doing the right thing, hard as it might be for her. She should also NOT resurface to the meth user when he sobers up because it will likely happen again. She will put herself at risk for not only physical harm, but legal issues and by putting her children back into that situation she could loose them. I will say a prayer for them all!

Steve in PA · #15 04/11/13, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bret4207

Here we go again. Pot is absolutely benign, no one ever goes from pot to hard drugs. Give me a break, it's not true. They start with beer and pot and the sky is the limit. If you never went past pot, good for you, but it's still not good for you or society.

I wasn't going to comment, but the misleading argument presented by the police state has too many people misinformed.

If we accept that MJ leads to Meth, then we must also accept the Milk leads to meth by the same flawed logic.

Meth users smoke pot->Pot smokers drink alcohol-> Alcohol drinkers drink milk, therefore milk should be illegal.

I'd prefer that the government actually prosecute crimes against other people/property and quit protecting us from the stupiity we do to ourselves, and I think using most drugs is stupidity. If someone uses Meth, that's their business but if they rob or harm others then it's a law enforcement issue.

“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.” Thomas Jefferson

My prayers go out to this lady and her family.

homebody · #16 04/11/13, 08:59 AM

Can a person use it for about a week, then stop, go to work for as long as 3 weeks straight (and not use it at that time) then get off for a week, use during that time? In other words, their schedule is 20 days on/10 days off. And there is random, unannounced drug testing on the job.

The reason I'm asking is because approx 1.5 years ago, one of our co. deputies told me that "we highly suspect he is on meth but we can't prove it". Exact words.

Not trying to start an argument, just wonder what you think as it seems ya'll know a lot more about it than I do.

91redford · #17 04/11/13, 09:28 AM

When i was young and curious i tried many things...even the dreaded meth...but it wasn't for me...it was for folks who needed to get more done...in our society people are encouraged to work work work...then go home and work some more...the friends i knew back then thought this was a way to push themselves harder. the dark side was less well known, crack cocaine was what the media where reporting then, 90's, but meth was a white boy drug in the west back then because it was cheap. believe it or not there's people who can handle it better than others and we always see the breakdown types, i think the stuff is poison but it's also a fact that most folks who haven't any experience with it are trying to tell others what it's all about...like so many things...if you didn't live it or witness it maybe your not getting the clear picture. And the pot connection...please get a life..that is BS..maybe you should come out west where you can drink whiskey or smoke MJ...called freedom. I am sorry anyone has to live in fear of some one who is crazy whatever the reason.

mekasmom · #18 04/11/13, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by where I want to

Unmitigated ugly. Poisons the place where it's made and the people who use it.
Why does anyone ever start it? It's not like it's not clear where it goes.

I don't understand why people would do that to their bodies. I do know that it is wrong to punish society for what individuals choose to do though. Is it fair that everytime we go to get lye for soap, we are looked at like we are major drug users? Or what about getting cold medicine?
Last winter my husband went through the check-out in his wheel chair scooter, and was buying nyquil when he was wheezing. He also had a bag of scripts from the pharmacy because he had just come from the doctor for the wheezing issue. It doesn't even have any speed type ingredients in the nyquil product, but the checker asks for his ID. She was suspicious of his driver's license because it has a chip on the edge where it is wearing. So, she calls another checker over, and they are looking at us all suspicious. I offer my dl. "No" it has to be his because he is the purchaser. By then I was getting irritated and told them that the nyquil has no controlled ingredients in it. The one smarted off, "Well we have to get IDs on all cold medicines, and the way you are acting, there must be something in it." Couldn't the rip even read the ingredient label? I mean this smart mouthed minimum wage checker who probably couldn't even spell pseudoephedrine, let alone know what it was, had the audacity to be rude to me over nothing. I was not pleased, yet trying to maintain a sweet composure. I made them call the pharmacist who told her, no it isn't the ones that is reported like that. The pharmacist came up and checked us out. He apologized. My husband was really irritated by this time and said, "I weigh almost 400 pounds and can barely walk. Do I look like I am a meth user?"
Anyway, the point is that normal people shouldn't be treated badly just because some idiots choose to use meth. If they want to kill themselves, so be it. If they threaten or harm others, then prosecute them fully and with strong sentences. But don't treat the general public like criminals just because there are criminals in society. And, on another topic, stores need to teach their employees to treat customers with some common respect. IF they cannot do that, then they need to be kept out of customer service. Put them in maintenance or cleaning or whatever, but don't put them in customer service.

I do hope your neighbor and children gets away from that man. She shouldn't have to put up with crap like that. Nobody should have to live in fear.

Surge223 · #19 04/11/13, 05:52 PM

I'm sure that extensive background checks would stop the illegal sales of meth.

Cash · #20 04/11/13, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bret4207

Here we go again. Pot is absolutely benign, no one ever goes from pot to hard drugs. Give me a break, it's not true. They start with beer and pot and the sky is the limit. If you never went past pot, good for you, but it's still not good for you or society.

This is like arguing that everyone who drinks beer will become an alcoholic, or everyone who eats food will become obese. One does not automatically lead to the other.

People who use pot sometimes try other drugs because pot often travels in the company of other illegal drugs through the dealers. If pot were legal and regulated like beer and vodka, it would not be in that group. Nor would it be as available to minors as it is today. Dealers don't card their customers.