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03/11/13, 06:25 PM
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Predaitor
I have a predator. Last week I had seven free ranging roos. My BIL lost BAWB his roo week before. Then monday week 4 disappeared. Yep no feathers or blood just vanished. Mid week there were feathers and a leg only. Today two more gone. The gunieas seem to dodge the bullet. I have tried everything I can think of from game camera to sand for prints. No sounds of squawking or any noise at all. This is errie.We have Cayotes, bear, bob cat ferral cats and have see cougar, wolf. Has anyone ever had this experience with a preditor?
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03/11/13, 06:56 PM
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My guess would be a horned owl. They are very early nesters and have hungry mouths to feed this time of year!
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03/11/13, 07:43 PM
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i would agree with an owl.
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03/11/13, 08:02 PM
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Fox!!
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03/11/13, 08:19 PM
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Ok so a flying Fox? Is that why there are no feathers or blood? By the way this happened to my gunieas three years ago. They were in a covered cage. Only left one foot no feathers or blood. NO GUNIEAS.
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03/11/13, 09:15 PM
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Foxes can climb... and carry. no flight involved.
if you found remains under a tree or in a tree owl.
owls also leave pellets. bone fur and other non-digestible things.
you need to scout a bit, see whats roaming. the sand thing can help a bit.
critters like paths.
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03/11/13, 09:21 PM
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Is that why there are no feathers or blood?
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A Fox or Coyote will normally carry off the birds whole
Owls would have a tough time carrying a large chicken, and would pluck and eat on the spot most of the time
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03/11/13, 09:23 PM
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I was losing chickens like that too until early January when Annie, my flock guard dog killed the fox. No signs of anything, just gone. Since the fox is dead have not lost another chicken. Before I was losing at least two a week if I let them free range. Now, they free range every day.
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03/11/13, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm
A Fox or Coyote will normally carry off the birds whole
Owls would have a tough time carrying a large chicken, and would pluck and eat on the spot most of the time
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not always had a few would kill several and eat and carry one off.
so several birds killed and spread around, no real sign of struggle.
just dead birds with bit ate out. and one gone.
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03/11/13, 09:58 PM
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Eagles, owls, and chicken hawks would have no problem carrying off most chickens. Heavier breeds might be a problem to them but your smaller type chickens wouldn't be to heavy for these birds of pray. However, a fox is very sneaky! I've lost a chicken within a hour after opening their gate to let free range and then not ever see it again. That's how fast it can happen.
But are you losing them at night while penned up, during the day while penned up, or while they free range during the day?
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03/11/13, 10:12 PM
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The Gunieas were penned. The other roos were free range. It is not one at a time it is like three to four each time this happens. I can see a fox or owl doing this but three to four at a time and no noise.
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03/11/13, 11:08 PM
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sounds like coyotes or bobcats to me
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03/11/13, 11:41 PM
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Keep that game camera out there Dave, something will turn up. I would also put a chicken inside a big live trap.
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03/12/13, 02:29 AM
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Dingos. It had to be dingos. Nothing else is big enough to carry off a kangaroo, let alone many of them.
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03/12/13, 04:28 AM
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Oh Wogglebug......When Americans talk about "Roo"s" they mean "Roosters" NOT Kangaroosters..........Sheeeeez
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03/12/13, 06:46 AM
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Big Dave, I'm going thru the exact same thing as you.
2-4 dead at a time, no noise, etc..
Our problem is a coon. Caught in on camera.
Smart smart coon and I haven't been able to catch up with it yet.
I have set traps, I've sat up and waited all night for it and still haven't gotten it yet.
But I will.
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03/12/13, 10:16 AM
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I had 5 hens disappear in one night - from their pen. Fox had dug in just at dawn as they were getting off the roosts. It must have been comical to see her hand each one out to her kits. One for you, and one for you. I knew where she had them and enjoyed watching them until that morning. Now I have a Pyr, and no more losses.
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03/13/13, 02:04 PM
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chupacabra, or big foot
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03/13/13, 02:48 PM
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Coyote or fox, I'd agree. They will carry the whole bird off, you might find a feather or two where the initial fight took place, but you might not.
We lose a 5 one DAY while we let them out to free range a bit, and us right there around the place. Next morning, coyote was back early for breakfast. .223 round ended that idea.
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03/13/13, 02:53 PM
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Racoons have been our problem lately. They've managed to work a hole in my fence and get in. Conibear 220 spring trap in a bucket baited with tuna has gotten three of them so far.
(Camera date is off)
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