Wood Stove

Vernitta · #1 02/16/13, 11:28 PM

This is the wood stove in the house we are considering buying. I can't find anything out about it online. Does anyone have one like it or can tell me anything about these kinds? Thank you.

farmrbrown · #2 02/17/13, 06:28 AM

Got one like it, except the door has 3 adjustable vents on the door instead of 1. The damper for that one must be on the side or back.
It's a Fisher Papa Bear clone. Yours has a name on the door that I can't read, but that's the style of stove. Very good and well tested over the years, never heard a bad word about them.

http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index...ve_information

HuskyBoris · #3 02/17/13, 09:25 AM

actually I think that a Fisher Baby Bear,here's a kink to yakaz,plenty of em for sale,and pricey to,my wifes cousin found a mama bear stove at a scrapyard and bought it for scrap price,lucky guy.I am wanting a mama bear to replace my Jotul but a baby bear would do as well.
http://for-sale.yakaz.com/fisher-baby-bear-stove

Vernitta · #4 02/17/13, 05:43 PM

Thank you SO very much!!!

greg_n_ga · #5 02/18/13, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HuskyBoris

actually I think that a Fisher Baby Bear,here's a kink to yakaz,plenty of em for sale,and pricey to,my wifes cousin found a mama bear stove at a scrapyard and bought it for scrap price,lucky guy.I am wanting a mama bear to replace my Jotul but a baby bear would do as well.
http://for-sale.yakaz.com/fisher-baby-bear-stove

Lookin at the door and comparing to the heater, it may be a little bigger than the baby bear !! Anyways, they are good heaters. Even the reproductions of the "Fishers" are, and better if the time is took to line 'em with fire brick !! A little stove paint and they can be made look like new !!

TnAndy · #6 02/18/13, 07:37 AM

It's a "Rebel" brand.....knock off of the Fisher variety sheet steel stoves of the 70's-80's. Real creosote producing stoves, as you can see the evidence of from that black streak down the brick where liquid creosote ran out of the thimble and down the face of the brick.

Best thing to do with it is find somebody that thinks they are still great stoves ( they WERE an improvement over earlier, less air tight stoves ), and sell it to them, or send it on to the scrap yard.

Then buy yourself a new, modern, high efficiency (80-85%) gassifer type stove that will produce almost no creosote and burn a heck of a lot less wood.

If you do keep it, clean your flue religiously, including probably a mid season cleanout of the area where the clay thimble enters the flue.

Rock · #7 02/18/13, 08:26 AM

Wood burning is a flexible art. Stoves DO NOT PRODUCE CREOSOTE, poor burning practices does.
Burning Wet unseasoned wood, packing the fire box and damping down for the night for a longer burn, using evergreen wood that is not.
I've been heating with wood for my whole life, using and old Buck from the early 70's now.
Clean the chimney good and have at it. I have got to the point where I clean mine every oct,dec,feb,apr. (I can take a pot of water put it on for pasta, go clean the stack, put my stuff away and get back before the rolling boil, and I'm brushing from the top down, taking a 32 ft ladder. Came up with a thing where a 5 gal bucket with a bag in it about locks onto the bottom of the flue, catches all the fluff. Also store my cleaning rods in one of those bags for folding sports/lawn chairs)

TnAndy · #8 02/18/13, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock

I have got to the point where I clean mine every oct,dec,feb,apr.

Although I agree with using seasoned wood, your cleaning your flue 4 times/year makes my point. The technology of that era of stove simply produces a lot of creosote no matter how well you practice 'the art'. ( and many folks don't ).

I have a similar stove in my shop, and burn mainly kiln dried hardwood scraps ( we're talking 1/2 the moisture content of even the BEST seasoned wood ), and it still produces a fair amount of creosote.....like 1/2 a sheetrock mud bucket per year.

By contrast, I have a newer ( 6 years old now ) Regency insert in my living room. Burn 3-4 times the amount of wood in it I burn in the shop ( seasoned hardwood ), and the amount of creosote that comes out of the flue liner ( stainless steel liner....I get pretty much ALL of it when cleaning ) won't fill half a #10 can.

The newer gasifer technology is simply so much better than older stoves you won't believe it until you try it.

I have also been burning wood since the 60's.

Look at this Youtube video for a graphic demo of the differences in stove technology:

Fourthistles · #9 02/18/13, 09:39 AM

If you are new to wood heating, the Fisher type stove is a good place to start, especially since it come with the house! While the new stoves are really great, they will also set you back around three grand. I'd clean up the stove in place and use it. We heated for many hears with a Timberline, very similar design.

farmrbrown · #10 02/18/13, 08:09 PM

The comments on the newer catalytic stoves got me looking around. I found some DIY add ons that were pretty cheap compared to buying a new stove and gave some good results.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It...#axzz2LIq82pEM
This one is long, skip to the last page.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects...atRetrofit.htm

Maybe next year.......

Rock · #11 02/18/13, 09:31 PM

I got this stove for free, if your giving me one of those for free I'll be glad to use it.
I clean my flue that often because I dont practice clean burns. I'll load it up shut the dampers down and come back after 12 hours. stir the ash rake the coals to the front and refire. I'll burn pallets pine whatever, if it is free it is me. Anything with a cat wouldn't last a season with me, I aint throwing good money after bad. So when should I expect delivery of these stoves your passing out?

I know there are better designs out there, but I'm not spending the cash. By the way I have known john for years and have been on his woodburner list since at leat the 90's

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Originally Posted by TnAndy

Although I agree with using seasoned wood, your cleaning your flue 4 times/year makes my point. The technology of that era of stove simply produces a lot of creosote no matter how well you practice 'the art'. ( and many folks don't ).

I have a similar stove in my shop, and burn mainly kiln dried hardwood scraps ( we're talking 1/2 the moisture content of even the BEST seasoned wood ), and it still produces a fair amount of creosote.....like 1/2 a sheetrock mud bucket per year.

By contrast, I have a newer ( 6 years old now ) Regency insert in my living room. Burn 3-4 times the amount of wood in it I burn in the shop ( seasoned hardwood ), and the amount of creosote that comes out of the flue liner ( stainless steel liner....I get pretty much ALL of it when cleaning ) won't fill half a #10 can.

The newer gasifer technology is simply so much better than older stoves you won't believe it until you try it.

I have also been burning wood since the 60's.

Look at this Youtube video for a graphic demo of the differences in stove technology:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzSiQ3dkgiw

HuskyBoris · #12 02/19/13, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by greg_n_ga

Lookin at the door and comparing to the heater, it may be a little bigger than the baby bear !! Anyways, they are good heaters. Even the reproductions of the "Fishers" are, and better if the time is took to line 'em with fire brick !! A little stove paint and they can be made look like new !!

I blew up the pic 200% and the door says Rebel,never seen one before.
I always thought the bay bear had one draft,,the mama bear 2 and the papa bear had 3 but who knows things change year to year as inprovements are made.

Silvercreek Farmer · #13 02/25/13, 08:35 AM

Burn well seasoned (and covered) hardwood, open the draft some everytime you load and let the stove get pretty hot before you close it back down, never cinch the draft down all the way, always leave it cracked, clean 2x a season and you should be good to go. With the draft vent cracked, you will probably be in the 7-8 hour range with that stove and good wood. Closing it all the way and trying to get 10+ hours out of it is a major source of creosote. Make sure you get the chimney inspected if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself. Might also check your clearances on the the pipe near the ceiling, looks mighty close to me.

I heated with a Fisher Baby Bear for several years, and was very happy with it, it just wasn't quite big enough when we moved into a different house.