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02/04/13, 02:52 PM
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John Deere 14t
There's one on the property I'm logging. It has prolly been sitting for atleast twenty years if not longer. It has a engine on the front. Idk if its seized I'd imagine could it be converted to run by pro easy I can do fabraction that's not a big deal. Right now it's frozen in the ground so it'll be awhile before I could mess with it. Do u guys think its just scrap metal or worth throwing a few bucks into it.
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02/04/13, 03:12 PM
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That depends on its overall condition. I used a 14t for quite a few years when I first started raising hay. The first year was a bugger.... it was in pretty bad shape when I got it, and I spent most of the first season getting it back up in shape. Chains, bearings here and there, and more than its share of rust. But, once I got it up in shape it did a fine job for me for several years. I busted the gear box on it, and found a good used new holland baler cheaper than I could replace the box, so I parked it and used the new holland after that. The 14t was pto driven, with an over ride clutch setup and I pulled it with a little TO20 ferguson tractor. Kinda tricky getting used to operating it without live power, but I put thousands of bales in the barn with that rig.
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02/04/13, 04:03 PM
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Anyone that has a lot of experience with the knotters, shouldn't have any trouble fixing the rest of it.
Not knowing why it was "junked" makes it impossible to say if it is worth fixing. It could be a dandy baler that they just stopped using because of engine trouble or lack of need. But more likely, it is a worn out machine in need of lots of parts. Do you need a baler?
The 14T is an old baler and fairly low production. The 24T is slow too. But I have pushed mine to the max and made 500 bales in an afternoon.
I doubt a good running 14T would be worth much to sell. Worth more to use, if you have the skills and time to get it going again.
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02/04/13, 04:56 PM
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Been sitting outside for 20 years? Forget about it. The chances of the knotters being made to work are poor, and new parts are expensive. It has wooden slides on the plunger AFIK and they probably are rotted. Plus you don't know what was wrong with it when parked. Chains will need to be replaced.
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02/04/13, 05:09 PM
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What ws wrong wityh it to start with is the engine froze up. Too much hay, Too big a hurry, and too little oil. Yes, The wood guides in the plunger box could be bad. I doubt if there is anything else more terriubly wrong than that. BUT like what was said. The knotter mech is a berar when its all up to snuff, so, Id guess you would know a bit more about it, looking at it, than I can guess about it.
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02/04/13, 05:10 PM
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$18oo is a chunk of money to me.
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02/04/13, 05:42 PM
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Considering you can buy a barn queen 268 nh for $500ish I would haul a fence row rust pile for scrap.
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02/04/13, 06:00 PM
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Was probably parked with hay compressed in the chamber..... 20 years ago ... not good.
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02/04/13, 06:07 PM
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Twenty years outside means lots of rust, wheels sunk in dirt, knotter all rusted up. I would venture the opinion that its only worth junk price.
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02/04/13, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
$18oo is a chunk of money to me.
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That's what they are asking for it, not what they are selling it for. big difference. What's a thousand pounds of scrap going for these days?
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02/04/13, 06:22 PM
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If you can get it at scrap and the knotter isnt a mess they make a pretty good baler for someone that isnt in a hurry.
I have rebuild many of them for sale in the past.
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02/04/13, 06:38 PM
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I imagine it just got parked when the old man stopped farm ing cause of his age n health. I ll prolly tinker with it when it i freezes from the ground.
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02/04/13, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by maverickxxx
I imagine it just got parked when the old man stopped farm ing cause of his age n health. I ll prolly tinker with it when it i freezes from the ground.
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Yep and that thing may been why he quit farming too .
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02/04/13, 08:08 PM
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Steel was 10 cents a pound about a month ago.
What kind of power unit is on that? Wisconsin or Continental maybe ? Check to see if it is free.
Sounds like maybe was an Amish machine (a more modern version of the Amish)
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02/04/13, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle
Steel was 10 cents a pound about a month ago.
What kind of power unit is on that? Wisconsin or Continental maybe ? Check to see if it is free.
Sounds like maybe was an Amish machine (a more modern version of the Amish)
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Yep and it's worth 9.5 cents a LB to drag that thing out and load it too .
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02/04/13, 08:51 PM
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It looked like a Wisconsin motor on it ill look at more tommrow. I didn't have much time to check it out today. Ill prolly get it for free.
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02/04/13, 09:23 PM
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Look to see if it was converted from a pto driven unit or was it factory made with a power unit.
If been ther 20 years probably not Amish machine
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02/05/13, 08:56 AM
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Sounds like a good parts machine if you already have a 14t. Hate to see that stuff melted down. But, not worth a lot more than scrap, just how it is.
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02/05/13, 10:05 AM
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Yep maybe some good parts to sell before scrapping. The engine might be of some value to someone who still has that style engine
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