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Old 01/08/13, 01:37 PM
 
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Or anyone with experience with the avalanche snow removers. It looks like they only come in a 16' length. Our roof is about that, but how do you get the snow off the top parts with only 16'?
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Old 01/08/13, 01:47 PM
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I have used the Avalanche while standing on a ladder. This has given me a further reach.

I have also gone up on the roof peak and starting at eaves pulled the Avalance towards me.

IMHO, you really don't have to get all the snow off the roof. The important place to remove it is at and above the eaves to reduce the potential for ice dams. If you're main concern is snow load (weight) getting half of it off is better than none at all.
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Thank you! Yes, our main concern is ice dams. Hubby removed what he could reach with a shovel from a ladder, but it was only a couple feet off the edges and the ice dams are terrible! I thought we really needed to get it ALL off the roof to prevent ice dams.
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It would be best to get it all off, but I have seen a lot of houses where they removed just the first 5 to 6 feet and it really helped. It seems like once lower roof deck is exposed to the sun, the ice dams don't form.
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Maybe that's the issue...we haven't had much sun and when the sun HAS been out it has been in the low teens.

I really appreciate you taking the time to help me figure this out. We'll pick up an Avalanche next time we get to town...anything is better than getting up ON the roof!
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Ice dams form when warm air gets into the attic because the attic insulation is insufficient or it gets around gaps where things like chiminys or vent stacks penetrate the floor of the attic, especially if the attic doesn't have enough ventilation. The the outside air temperature has to be just below freezing too.

The warmth in the attic melts the snow on the roof above the attic. The water runs down the roof until it hits the eave, which is below freezing because it's hanging out there in the below freezing air. The water freezes. Repeat and the ice builds up high enough to trap a lake of water behind it. This water is warmed by the warm attic and stays liquid. Eventually it finds a way into your house and damages the ceiling and walls.

The fix is to make your attic cooler by fixing the cause. You can also put up electric heater wires on the eaves to melt channels through the ice dams. Both of these need to be done in warm weather.

Right now you can fill a nylon stocking with sidewalk salt to make a "sausage" about 4 inches in diameter. Lay this across the ice dam, perpendicular to it, and it will melt a channel for the water to escape. For the rest of the winter, repeat as needed. Shoveling the snow off doesn't melt the ice dams but can help reduce the volume of melted water.
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Old 01/08/13, 10:54 PM
 
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I just fling the roof rake up as far as 5'3" me can reach to pull off as much snow as I can and it seems to prevent the ice dams.
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Old 01/09/13, 04:18 AM
 
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Do any of you all have gutters that fill with ice? That must put a terrible strain on them, but I'm not sure what to do about it.
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I just fling the roof rake up as far as 5'3" me can reach to pull off as much snow as I can and it seems to prevent the ice dams.
That's what I've seen on a lot of houses, too.
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Old 01/09/13, 08:16 AM
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For those who were wondering what the Avalanche snow removal gismo was. This is SOOOOOO much easier than pulling snow off your roof with a rook rake.

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Do any of you all have gutters that fill with ice? That must put a terrible strain on them, but I'm not sure what to do about it.
EasyHeat makes heat cables you can run along and down the spout. Nice little clips. Do not have it in the gutter, but their site has nice descriptions/diagrams.

I just watch and wait. Break off long icicles. Long screws.
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