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12/27/12, 07:02 PM
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?? the neighbors cow is in our pasture; what to do?
what to do? We tried to walk over there to tell them, but they weren't home, and we called and left a message. The pasture it got into (through the neighbors fence and our fence too!) has lots of very deep holes in it where the previous owner of the place was perk testing to put in a neighborhood (before he went bankrupt and sold the place to us) and the grass is fairly high, so you can't really see the holes before you are up on them even when it is not dark. It is now dark So...
stupid question #1 Is the cow at risk because of the holes?
stupid question #2 Can I get in trouble if the cow gets hurt?
stupid question #3 Anything else I can do? I am reticent to go out and approach this very large animal that I do not know that does not know me. I just moved here and don't really know the neighbor either, so I don't know how the animal was raised, if it has been handled much or... this neighbor appears to be really good with his animals though. But like I say, I don't know for sure.
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12/27/12, 07:08 PM
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Wait until morning and then get the neighbors to take them home.
Running around out there puts both you and the cow at risk for falling in those holes.
I dont really think your neighbors can sue you if their cows get hurt.
Since it is just a single animal, it likely wont wander far from the rest of the herd overnight.
Absolutely do not risk getting yourself hurt out there.
Deal with it in the daylight, that is my recommendation. 
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12/27/12, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gone-a-milkin
Wait until morning and then get the neighbors to take them home.
Running around out there puts both you and the cow at risk for falling in those holes.
I dont really think your neighbors can sue you if their cows get hurt.
Since it is just a single animal, it likely wont wander far from the rest of the herd overnight.
Absolutely do not risk getting yourself hurt out there.
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sounds like a plan. L! thanks!
Cindyc.
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12/27/12, 07:35 PM
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We had that happen a few months ago. The neighbor's heifer was in season and wanted over here to the bull that belonged to some boys leasing our pastures, so she came through the fence. Hubby told the neighbors - who were leasing their pasture to the heifer's owner - and they had the heifer's owner come on over and pick her up.
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12/27/12, 07:51 PM
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Beef , it's what for dinner
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12/27/12, 07:56 PM
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LOL! 
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12/27/12, 07:57 PM
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Don't put yourself at risk for a cow. My only concern would be if the cow could get out on a road. If not, worry about it in the morning. Hopefully by then the neighbors will have returned and retrieve their cow.
Not saying they won't sue you if the cow gets hurt. Lots of people file unfounded and stupid lawsuits. But their cow went through their fence first. In this state the owners are strictly liable for any damage done by their loose livestock.
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12/27/12, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Danaus29
Don't put yourself at risk for a cow. My only concern would be if the cow could get out on a road. If not, worry about it in the morning. Hopefully by then the neighbors will have returned and retrieve their cow.
Not saying they won't sue you if the cow gets hurt. Lots of people file unfounded and stupid lawsuits. But their cow went through their fence first. In this state the owners are strictly liable for any damage done by their loose livestock.
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we live on a dead end gravel private road. there are 4 houses back here. So she is probably not in any danger if she gets out into the road.
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12/27/12, 08:22 PM
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it is there responceability to fence there livestock in and are responcable for any damage they cause . where I live if you don't have live stock you don't have to pay for a fence if she is not causeing any damage to your property or is in danger of traffic you have done all you cannot knowing the type or temper of that cow don,t put yourself at risk most cows are calm and harmless but she may be from rodeo stock and dangerious though un likely .good neabours keep up good fences and you may want to share the expence of fence repair if you intend to get any livestock in the future or wish to keep them out of your crops and avoid problems most cattle are sure footed and un likely to fall in a hole to hurt themselves.
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12/27/12, 08:37 PM
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Do you live in an open range or fence out state? The laws in those states are very different from the ones here in the East.
I would call the sheriff - they are more likely to know the laws where you live than we are and if you act on their advice I would say you have a good defense in case anything does go wrong.
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12/27/12, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cindy-e
what to do? We tried to walk over there to tell them, but they weren't home, and we called and left a message. The pasture it got into (through the neighbors fence and our fence too!) has lots of very deep holes in it where the previous owner of the place was perk testing to put in a neighborhood (before he went bankrupt and sold the place to us) and the grass is fairly high, so you can't really see the holes before you are up on them even when it is not dark. It is now dark So...
stupid question #1 Is the cow at risk because of the holes?
stupid question #2 Can I get in trouble if the cow gets hurt?
stupid question #3 Anything else I can do? I am reticent to go out and approach this very large animal that I do not know that does not know me. I just moved here and don't really know the neighbor either, so I don't know how the animal was raised, if it has been handled much or... this neighbor appears to be really good with his animals though. But like I say, I don't know for sure.
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Just patiently wait for your neighbor to get home. He probably knows about the holes. Animals are pretty good about not steppin in one. But is is possible. What ever happens to the cow is his issue unless you try to heard it should a problem occur. The animal is trespassing - not you.
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12/27/12, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mistletoad
Do you live in an open range or fence out state? The laws in those states are very different from the ones here in the East.
I would call the sheriff - they are more likely to know the laws where you live than we are and if you act on their advice I would say you have a good defense in case anything does go wrong.
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In this area you call the cops on a stray cow everyone that hears about it is going to shun you like you had the plague and or give you a case of it if they can . 
For a person new to a place i would say let it graze at the price of cows that neighbor wants him home as bad as you do or more so 
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12/27/12, 09:07 PM
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If you are really lucky the cow will go home on her own! They are pretty good at finding the hole in the fence.
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12/27/12, 09:08 PM
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If there is no danger of her getting out on the road then I stand by my original suggestion of leave her be for tonight. Let the neighbors come get her in the morning.
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12/27/12, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sawmill Jim
In this area you call the cops on a stray cow everyone that hears about it is going to shun you like you had the plague and or give you a case of it if they can .
For a person new to a place i would say let it graze at the price of cows that neighbor wants him home as bad as you do or more so |
Again, you and I do not live in fence out states.
And I did not say to call the cops on anyone, I said I would (if I lived in a place where I did not know the law) call the cops and ask them what the law is. As far as I know ignorance of the law has never been a valid defense.
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12/27/12, 09:35 PM
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neighbor came and got the cow, and then called and thanked me for letting him know. All's well that ends well.
Cindyc.
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12/27/12, 11:10 PM
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As far as I know ignorance of the law has never been a valid defense.[/QUOTE]
Not thying to pick on you but it can be a valid defence . I reserched this to great length one time . Cops lots of times don't know the laws themself but here make them up as they go . For any law advice i call my lawyer .
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12/29/12, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mistletoad
As far as I know ignorance of the law has never been a valid defense.
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LOL thats not exactly true but its seldom worth it to push the point.
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12/29/12, 08:05 AM
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Cops lots of times don't know the laws themself but here make them up as they go . For any law advice i call my lawyer . |
Silly cow -all she wanted was some good eats!
rather than calling the cops - [and YES, I've been privy to cops making things (laws) up as they go  ] - CALL the livestock board. They know livestock laws.
And NO, I wouldn't call my lawyer unless he was well versed in what I was asking. Most lawyers are not specialists - just like doctors.
Glad the mountain turned back into a molehill.
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12/29/12, 09:22 AM
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Reminds of one time heading over to visit a friend.
On the way there we had two horses loose in the road.
A main country road so I blocked the road.
My wife went to the house to tell them and I was working the horses over to that side of the road when the two gals came out thanking us and rounded up the horses.
After our visit we took a different road towards home and a good sized heifer slipped under an electric fence where there was a washout and ran right in front of our car.
I got out and chased the cow back under the fence.
I rolled a couple large rocks into the washed out area to make it a smaller hole. There was nobody home at the farm so I left a note.
A rather fun trip for this country guy.
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