More on wheat-the GMO kind

PrettyPaisley · #1 10/18/12, 07:43 PM

So in Australia they are GMOing wheat for money, to the detrement of human genetics. Can you imagine eating a hot dog bun that could possibly assure your unborn child will not live past 5 years old?

GM Wheat May Damage Human Genetics Permanently | GreenMedInfo | Blog

MO_cows · #2 10/18/12, 08:47 PM

Ya know, when the GM foods first came on the market, I bought into all the "franken food" hype and was really worried about it.

Now, 20 years later, with more GM grain in the food chain than not, guess what? The sky didn't fall. And the improved production qualities mean less fuel, less fertilizer, less chemicals, less land needing to be tilled under for production, etc.

When vaccines were first developed, people were scared of them. It must have seemed like voodoo. Imagine knowing nothing about it and someone says to you, so we're going to inject polio into your child and they will become immune to it. Would you have let your child be vaccinated before the vaccine was proven over years to work, and better understood by those outside of the scientific community? Same concept now. We don't understand the GM products and we fear them.

PrettyPaisley · #3 10/18/12, 08:51 PM

I'll be sure to send my share to you then.

Actually, while it made not have made the evening news, the 1st GMO food supplement killed people in Japan. The Japanese wised up and outlawed GMOs after that.

GMO Food Scandal

Alice In TX/MO · #4 10/18/12, 08:55 PM

Russia is smarter than U.S. consumers:

Russia bans all GM corn imports; EU may also ban Monsanto GMO in wake of shocking cancer findings

arabian knight · #5 10/18/12, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MO_cows

Ya know, when the GM foods first came on the market, I bought into all the "franken food" hype and was really worried about it.

Now, 20 years later, with more GM grain in the food chain than not, guess what? The sky didn't fall. And the improved production qualities mean less fuel, less fertilizer, less chemicals, less land needing to be tilled under for production, etc.

When vaccines were first developed, people were scared of them. It must have seemed like voodoo. Imagine knowing nothing about it and someone says to you, so we're going to inject polio into your child and they will become immune to it. Would you have let your child be vaccinated before the vaccine was proven over years to work, and better understood by those outside of the scientific community? Same concept now. We don't understand the GM products and we fear them.

I agree all these scare tactics brought to you be the so called back to nature group. Just is not going to work in the 21st Century just won't as many people as there on on this earth now.
We must keep up this new scientific discoveries for years to come.

rambler · #6 10/18/12, 09:54 PM

It will be interesting as these sorts of things come up more and more often.

I can understand being concerned about the food you put in your mouth, and not understanding science, it's just gonna be a scary world out there.

--->Paul

PrettyPaisley · #7 10/19/12, 05:52 AM

It's not a matter of not "understanding science". It's a matter of trusting Mother Nature over the ignorance and greed of man.

Cindy in PA · #8 10/19/12, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley

It's not a matter of not "understanding science". It's a matter of trusting Mother Nature over the ignorance and greed of man.

X2. That and having a choice.

rxkeith · #9 10/19/12, 07:58 AM

we just got the book genetic roulette, the documented health risks of genetically engineered foods, by jeffrey smith. read the book, and then everyone can reevaluate their opinion on gm food.

keith

springvalley · #10 10/19/12, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

Russia is smarter than U.S. consumers:

Russia bans all GM corn imports; EU may also ban Monsanto GMO in wake of shocking cancer findings

Russia and 49 other countries, think about it. > Marc

MichaelK! · #11 10/19/12, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MO_cows

When vaccines were first developed, people were scared of them. It must have seemed like voodoo.

Oh, it's far worse than that. When photography was first introduced there were people that were actually afraid that the image was going to capture your soul, and the photographer was trying to steal it from you.

I remember reading something about when the Wahabies in Saudi Arabia first came into power at the turn of the 20th century, they were afraid of mirrors, and went about smashing every single mirror in the kingdom.

It is just so hard to deal with stupid, irrational people that let their unfounded fears run their lives via histeria. What's worse though is when these stupid, ignorant people are in a postion to influence and control others.

silverseeds · #12 10/19/12, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

Russia is smarter than U.S. consumers:

Russia bans all GM corn imports; EU may also ban Monsanto GMO in wake of shocking cancer findings

Also keep in mind the study in france that prompted this wouldnt even have taken place if the industry had its way. What does that tell us?

Ive never seen proof as some are claiming that yields are higher.

Weirdest part is as a backyard plant breeder, who is working on breeding for homestead type uses for the high desert... I can see a whole mess of projects that would take decades conventionally that GM guys could do much faster that could truly change our crops for the better all without bringing in genetics from entirely different "kingdoms"...

Beyond that I thinks its a potentially valuable tool. Ive seen little to date however that even convinces me current uses of these things are even safe let alone helpful.

companies that fight consumers wanting to know what their food even is, or studies on its safety sure dont inspire me to trust them. Especially after weve had studies as this recent one in france.

springvalley · #13 10/19/12, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelK!

It is just so hard to deal with stupid, irrational people that let their unfounded fears run their lives via histeria. What's worse though is when these stupid, ignorant people are in a postion to influence and control others.

WOW !!! Snarky post of the day award ,goes to ^. I take offence at this statement, and could turn it back at you. You can`t tell me that GM grains can`t do anything bad to you. Just as I can`t tell you for sure that they can do harm. And to say eveyone that disagrees with you is stupid and a big dumby, shame on you, shame shame shame. I don`t agree with everyone on here, but yet I never , NEVER call anyone stupid are ignorant. That is what bullies are doing now days, so I will expect and appology hense forth. > Thanks and God Bless You. > Marc

silverseeds · #14 10/19/12, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by springvalley

Just as I can`t tell you for sure that they can do harm.

Actually we CAN say for sure that atleast some of them do harm, as per the french study alice linked above.

In fact it was the first major long term study the industry didnt do themselves.

It was literally a specific variety of corn feed to humans and animals in this country NOW!!

Im not sure how so many can dismiss this. Food shouldnt poison you. Realizing it does because of a study IS following the science, not putting your fingers in your ears and yelling LA LA LA LA.

PrettyPaisley · #15 10/19/12, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelK!

Oh, it's far worse than that. When photography was first introduced there were people that were actually afraid that the image was going to capture your soul, and the photographer was trying to steal it from you.

I remember reading something about when the Wahabies in Saudi Arabia first came into power at the turn of the 20th century, they were afraid of mirrors, and went about smashing every single mirror in the kingdom.

It is just so hard to deal with stupid, irrational people that let their unfounded fears run their lives via histeria. What's worse though is when these stupid, ignorant people are in a postion to influence and control others.

Then you tell me-since you seem to be so much more enlightened than the Wahabies and of course, all these "back to nature" freaks - why the children in this country are so sick.

Alice In TX/MO · #16 10/19/12, 08:42 AM

There is a huge difference between hybridizing daylilies in the back yard and grafting bacteria into corn or the DNA from one animal into another.

http://www.geneticroulette.com/

silverseeds · #17 10/19/12, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rambler

It will be interesting as these sorts of things come up more and more often.

I can understand being concerned about the food you put in your mouth, and not understanding science, it's just gonna be a scary world out there.

--->Paul

You might want to look at the science a bit closer actually.

Shock findings in new GMO study: Rats fed lifetime of GM corn grow horrifying tumors, 70% of females die early

The variety from this french study is literally consumed in our country today by both humans and animals.

This IS what the science is showing us.

geo in mi · #18 10/19/12, 08:55 AM

Here are some facts, instead of ghostly images arising from a field of wheat:

OGTR - Table of applications and licences for Dealings involving Intentional Release (DIR) into the environment

For information.......but I do have to put the original post in the category of hysteria for this time. It used to be high fructose corn syrup, then canola, and in just two weeks, here in this forum, soybeans, and now wheat..........

It's greed to utilize nitrogen better in growing crops, it's greed to reduce the amounts of herbicides and insecticides, it's greed to create GM vaccines, but it's enlightened entrepeneurship to offer soy-free chickens? C'mon, let's play fair.....

To me the Australian government seems to have a good handle on the research process. This time I would rather allow science than Salem witch hunts, but, then it's Halloween, so maybe a few ghostly images are okay this week......

My humble and only opinion.....

geo

PrettyPaisley · #19 10/19/12, 09:01 AM

^^^Just because they put their data in fancy columns with official seals does not mean it's safe to feed your kids GMO wheat.

I am so grateful for the people in this world who are aware of what is going into the bodies of their babies. I am terrified of those who blindly thing man is smarter than Mother Nature and we should ingore her balance because our brains are too big for our own good.

arabian knight · #20 10/19/12, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by silverseeds

You might want to look at the science a bit closer actually.

Shock findings in new GMO study: Rats fed lifetime of GM corn grow horrifying tumors, 70% of females die early

The variety from this french study is literally consumed in our country today by both humans and animals.

This IS what the science is showing us.

Rats are not people, and not only that they have done studies with rats that have been proved false and so is this one as anything that is Forced fed like that with anything even water will cause adverse reactions on some thing as small as a rodent. Talk about common sense, that is sure out the window when these seem to pop up here nearly every week. Way over hyped and over reactions run rampant.