Why do people advertise doors on Craig's List...

pheasantplucker · #1 09/21/12, 06:42 AM

without specifying the door's dimensions? Duh!

I also notice lots of folks advertise stuff that appears to be junk...no effort to clean up the item to make it as presentable as possible and then they always say something like "needs a new belt...an easy fix"...Well if it is an easy fix, why didn't they do it so it runs or operates? Are people that unmotivated?

Laura Zone 5 · #2 09/21/12, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pheasantplucker

without specifying the door's dimensions? Duh!

I also notice lots of folks advertise stuff that appears to be junk...no effort to clean up the item to make it as presentable as possible and then they always say something like "needs a new belt...an easy fix"...Well if it is an easy fix, why didn't they do it so it runs or operates? Are people that unmotivated?

Lazy
Control Freaks
No self respect
No respect for others.
Red necks
They want something for nothing.
They watch too much TV and their their rusted out bucket of carp is worth something.

Of all the things I have sold on CL only one, was kind of a sketchy person.
Everyone else was very appreciative of my details in the descriptions, and the condition of the item I was selling, and clear concise photos.

Put out an ad that screams "I am a tool" and you will get "tools" that answer your ad.
Put out an ad that says "I am going to give you all the information up front so that the buyer can make an intelligent decision, and the transaction will go as smooth as glass" and you will get folks who appreciate your effort, and haggle less. MUCH less.

glenn amolenaar · #3 09/21/12, 07:04 AM

Laura Zone 5,
I like your reply, but why Red necks?
Glenn

Laura Zone 5 · #4 09/21/12, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenn amolenaar

Laura Zone 5,
I like your reply, but why Red necks?
Glenn

Laura's definition of red neck = Doesn't realize a woman has a face, says lewd and grossly inappropriate things to a female he just met, has zero manners or social skills (the ability to have an intelligent conversation about ANYTHING), cat calls every woman that walks by with his tongue hanging out like a dog and he actually thinks women are attracted to this.......
Has no respect for any one or their property. Really in general to me a red neck is any human being that has no respect for themselves or others.

Example: I am grocery shopping. Shorts and a sweatshirt. Just your average plain Jane. Guy walks by, looks in my cart and says "wow, you're organized, I like that".
I smiled and said "thank you". I thought "um ewww don't be creepin' on my cart, and I don't care what YOU like".
Go on about my shopping.....
Go thru the self check out lane, walk to my vehicle, back out.
All the sudden this white Jeep Cherokee (yeah, I wrote down the plate make model and year) blocks me.
It's Captain Creepy from inside.
He pulls up next to my van (as I draw my purse nearer to me, lock my doors, one hand on the horn the other hand ready) and motions for me to put my window down.
I cracked it 1/3 of the way down.
He says "Just wanted you to know you have really nice legs".
My smile now is a smirk, with one eye cocked. My body language is clear.
I said "thank you" and rolled my window up.
As I am driving out of the lot so is he and I am watching him........

So yeah, that to me was a red neck move.
Really? Do guys REALLY pick up women that way?
AND REALLY WOMEN......that's all it takes these days? A couple of compliments and in the sack ya go??

So to make a short story long, that's what I think is "red neck".

Usingmyrights · #5 09/21/12, 07:15 AM

If simple repairs, maybe they want to just get rid of the item and are willing to take a loss to do so. I dont know what to tell ya about the doors. What I hate is when someone advertises something with lots of things that it could be. For example one I saw yesterday was for a Remington 7mm-08. There's lots of Remington rifles. A model number would be great and only take a few characters for the basic model info.

mooman · #6 09/21/12, 07:17 AM

Agree with cleaning the item up. Replacing a belt? I have a million things to do on my homestead. replacing a belt on.....lets say an old lawnmower that I have already purchased a replacement for ranks very low on the list. That's why i've priced it "as is". Sometimes you just need an item gone.

Usingmyrights · #7 09/21/12, 07:18 AM

Laura - I think you are confusing redneck with white trash.

Laura Zone 5 · #8 09/21/12, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usingmyrights

Laura - I think you are confusing redneck with white trash.

help me understand the difference.
Is 'white trash' the new 'red neck'?
Maybe it's my age?

warnimct · #9 09/21/12, 07:27 AM

A lot of the people just want to get a few bucks for their junk. My biggest pet peeve about Craigslist is the people who post free firewood, but you have to cut down the tree that sits between their house and the neighbors 15' away...

secuono · #10 09/21/12, 07:28 AM

I am in no way a red neck, raised in class and self respect. I dress nicely and try to look nice. But at a swap, someone called me a redneck because I was using my Mustang car as a haul all truck. I'm fairly poor, we don't own a truck and I did keep everything neat and safe in my Mustang-truck. But if that's the only thing, then ok.

But not all rednecks are trailer trash and vis versa. There's a big difference. I cannot stand trailer trash, they just don't give a dang. While rednecks put some effort and thought into what they do and have fun doing it. Heck, I think more people need to stop being stuffy, get off their high horse and have some fun again!

Back to the original Q. Why would I clean up stuff I don't need when reselling? I wouldn't fix something I don't need just to resell it. Especially not in this economy, no one cares about the effort you put into it, so why bother? If someone wants it, they fix it or it goes to the dump.
As long as they don't lie or over price it, it's fine by me.

Laura Zone 5 · #11 09/21/12, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secuono

I am in no way a red neck, raised in class and self respect. I dress nicely and try to look nice. But at a swap, someone called me a redneck because I was using my Mustang car as a haul all truck. I'm fairly poor, we don't own a truck and I did keep everything neat and safe in my Mustang-truck. But if that's the only thing, then ok.

But not all rednecks are trailer trash and vis versa. There's a big difference. I cannot stand trailer trash, they just don't give a dang. While rednecks put some effort and thought into what they do and have fun doing it. Heck, I think more people need to stop being stuffy, get off their high horse and have some fun again!

Back to the original Q. Why would I clean up stuff I don't need when reselling? I wouldn't fix something I don't need just to resell it. Especially not in this economy, no one cares about the effort you put into it, so why bother? If someone wants it, they fix it or it goes to the dump.
As long as they don't lie or over price it, it's fine by me.

I did not mean to offend!!
Is trailer trash the same as white trash?
Will you tell me 'what red neck' means to you??

||Downhome|| · #12 09/21/12, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

Lazy
Control Freaks
No self respect
No respect for others.
Red necks
They want something for nothing.
They watch too much TV and their their rusted out bucket of carp is worth something.

Of all the things I have sold on CL only one, was kind of a sketchy person.
Everyone else was very appreciative of my details in the descriptions, and the condition of the item I was selling, and clear concise photos.

Put out an ad that screams "I am a tool" and you will get "tools" that answer your ad.
Put out an ad that says "I am going to give you all the information up front so that the buyer can make an intelligent decision, and the transaction will go as smooth as glass" and you will get folks who appreciate your effort, and haggle less. MUCH less.

Little offend by the redneck term.
More so use of.
Cause I'm a proud redneck.
Often when some one uses it they refer to white trash.
That stereo typical inbred backwards ignorant trailer trash gap toothed
make you squeal like a pig.
Which rednecks are not...
Very offensive,you want to see real inbreds just look at the royals.

But I digress most of craigslist list are tools.

I try to sell stuff from time to time,bunch of tire kickers and low ballers.
I do not have to sell but would be nice.
Don't mind working with folks either but I'm not giving it away.

This morning I found a guy wanted a trans for his truck, I got it and at a good price. call him and he says he decided he just did not want to deal with it and just want to sell the truck. REMOVE YOUR WANT ADD!
I think though he was hoping for free!

Have some cast iron steam radiators, at least worth 1200 bucks by all accounts. So I call this guy, give him all the specs.
Number of tubes,sections height and style.
Offers me like 360... Oh and he's leaving today and be gone a week.
he's got multiple adds one says building a business, other I need a few for my house dadada. but ya they'll buy them.
I can get more in scrap from them then he wants to pay.
I told him he was a bit low.
he obviously was not listening when I told him what I had and if he's building a biz well... he's doing poorly.

Or you list it as make offer. What do you want for them???
Make a offer.

Us rednecks call it horsetrading.
you always ask more then you need or want and offer less then your willing to pay.dicker a bit about it and either agree or not.

I buy stuff to, and hear the same stuff from other people.

or some one sell it and never removes the add.

I guess you get what you pay for though...

Just wish Craigslist would institute a IQ test.
Or charge a nominal fee.

Laura Zone 5 · #13 09/21/12, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ||Downhome||

Little offend by the redneck term.
More so use of.
Cause I'm a proud redneck.
Often when some one uses it they refer to white trash.
That stereo typical inbred backwards ignorant trailer trash gap toothed
make you squeal like a pig.
Which rednecks are not...
Very offensive,you want to see real inbreds just look at the royals.

I have posted several times, (1) my definition of 'red neck' (2) and have asked for clairity on what a 'red neck' really is.

So far, everyone is offended but no one is helping me understand?
Again, is "trailer trash" the same as "white trash"??

Laura Zone 5 · #14 09/21/12, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usingmyrights

Laura - I think you are confusing redneck with white trash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

help me understand the difference.
Is 'white trash' the new 'red neck'?
Maybe it's my age?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

I did not mean to offend!!
Is trailer trash the same as white trash?
Will you tell me 'what red neck' means to you??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

I have posted several times, (1) my definition of 'red neck' (2) and have asked for clairity on what a 'red neck' really is.

So far, everyone is offended but no one is helping me understand?
Again, is "trailer trash" the same as "white trash"??

Anyone?

Ramblin Wreck · #15 09/21/12, 08:21 AM

Historically, in the South anyway, a redneck was a farmer or laborer who earned their living working out in the Sun, thereby obtaining a sunburn where their shirt collar did not provide cover/protection. Usually, but not always, those who earned their living in such a way were less educated and paid lower wages.

painterswife · #16 09/21/12, 08:23 AM

So what if they post stuff and it does not meet your narrow version of how it should be posted and what shape it should be in.

If you don't like their ad than move on. This constant vocalizing about how others should and should not do things is bizarre. It is not effecting you so it should not concern you.

Yes , I am the "pot calling the kettle black" by posting this but sometimes you just have to say enough with all this judgement of others.

Ramblin Wreck · #17 09/21/12, 08:24 AM

Meanwhile, back at the thread: Maybe it's laziness, lack of time, or thoughtlessness that causes people to post incomplete ads. As for buying items with problems like missing belts, I just won't bother calling/asking about them. If I cannot fire it up and watch it work, nine times out of ten I'm just not interested.

mom in oklahoma · #18 09/21/12, 08:31 AM

red·neck
[red-nek] Show IPA Informal: Often Disparaging .

noun
1.
an uneducated white farm laborer, especially from the South.

2.
a bigot or reactionary, especially from the rural working class.

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Also, red-necked . narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary: a redneck attitude. Synonyms: biased, narrow-minded, intolerant. Antonyms: fair-minded, open-minded, broad-minded, tolerant, unbiased, impartial.

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redneck (ˈrɛdˌnɛk)

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(in the southwestern US) a poor uneducated White farm worker

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a person or institution that is extremely reactionary

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3.

reactionary and bigoted: redneck laws

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redneck

"cracker," 1893; attested 1830 in more specialized sense ("This may be ascribed to the Red Necks, a name bestowed upon the Presbyterians in Fayetteville," from Ann Royall, "Southern Tour I," p.148). According to various theories, red perhaps from anger, or from pellagra, but most likely from mule farmers'
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redneck definition

A slang term, usually for a rural white southerner who is politically conservative, racist, and a religious fundamentalist ( see fundamentalism). This term is generally considered offensive. It originated in reference to agricultural workers, alluding to how the back of a person's neck will be burned by the sun if he works long hours in the fields.

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redneck definition

n.
a stereotypic southern bigot. (Derogatory. Also a term of address.) : Look, you stupid redneck, try to understand.
mod.
in the manner of a southern bigot. : I don't follow that kind of redneck thinking.

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I try to stay away from slang terms because they have been misused for a number of years. I recently watched"Here comes honey Boo Boo" a reality series, it was eye catching to say the least. they seem like nice people.
Look at the word"------"- it really is a bundle of sticks, when my son heard that( he is 13 now) he started using that term everyday(at home)when we would gather sticks, he would put them in a bundle.
I have told him the slang definition, and he doesn't use the word anymore, I have never looked at when or how the meaning changed.

Usingmyrights · #19 09/21/12, 08:32 AM

A redneck can be simply a country boy who makes do with what he has. The mustang tow vehicle for instance. Might be a little rough around the edges, but generally was raised right and has basic manners and such. They may not be the most sophisticated or tiddy, but aren't trashy. You may feel out of place with a visit to their house, but wouldnt feel outright uncomfortable. You can expect most interactions to be pleasant unless you ---- one off.
White trash is what you'd expect to find in the middle of some big city projects. That doesn't mean that they cant live in the country. I'm talking about the attitude. Vulgar, rude, no basic courtesy, someone that is unpleasant to be around. They'll steal, take advantage of, lie, cheat the system, etc. It's someone that you'd rather not even bump into at the grocery store.
Basically a positive or neutral experience is redneck, a negative is white trash.

||Downhome|| · #20 09/21/12, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

I have posted several times, (1) my definition of 'red neck' (2) and have asked for clairity on what a 'red neck' really is.

So far, everyone is offended but no one is helping me understand?
Again, is "trailer trash" the same as "white trash"??

Rednecks where coal miners that fought to unionize the mines.
They wore a red bandanna to show which side they where on.
the term can and is applied to their descendents.
Which I am One.
My Grandfather was the last miner though.

I try not to use trailer trash either cause not everyone in trailers is white trash.
I should of used that term instead. but again a stereo typical term.

And it seems all three and the term hillbilly all blur together for most folks that either forgot where they come from or are not familiar with such.

I think a good bit comes from the clannish ways.
which helped to establish the backwoods backward thing.
Many people do not understand.
then you had Artistic license on thing like the Hatfield and Mccoys and various other things.

These things where big storys and embellished on and still are.

My Family came Up from NC into Virgina and slowly spread across into what now is WV, but There is a Town in Virgina called Duty Virginia. Many Duty Cemeteries. they married in to many other large family's. Including the Hatfield's and Mccoy's and many others. I have many distant family members all through those parts. Tennessee,Kentucky,Wv,Virginia. Have few close relation there two.

Now when you get to looking at Family lines I can see how a outsider would be confused. Many of the names are past along that is custom.

Then Family's often intermarried. not blood to blood but multiple marriages between familys.

For instance My dad has a double cousin, my GF married one sister and his Brother married the other.

So I sort of think that is how the inbred stereotype got started.

But people like to poke fun at names two. My father would be know as Jimmy Joe if you where to use his Familiar name. Another cousin would be Billy Bob.

But ya the way those who misuse such a proud title as Redneck do nothing more then show their ignorance.

With out those folks that Inhabited the hills and hollers , we would more then likely still be a British commonwealth.

Laura I wasn't snappin on ya either just a bit frustrated with the Idiots that post around here and then saw the thread.
I know many people misuse the words.
I'm know my heritage and proud of what my Ancestors have accomplished here.
I'm also protective of it.
Again Proud and try to live up to the examples they set.
So sorry if I put ya on point.

Steve in PA · #21 09/21/12, 08:53 AM

I was taught and always thought that one should try to see the good in people and keep negative comments to one's self. Many of these so-called rednecks are just people from a different social/economic background than myself. When I remember that these people are just different good, bad, etc mostly disappears.

As far as craigslist, as a anarcho-capitalist I think it is one of the greatest things ever invented. Two people can engage in mutually beneficial commerce without an all-knowing/all-seeing third party being involved.

Just last night I bought a nearly new looking chipper/shredder for $100 from a older gentleman who is looking to clear out some space in his garage.

DarleneJ · #22 09/21/12, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pheasantplucker

without specifying the door's dimensions? Duh!

I also notice lots of folks advertise stuff that appears to be junk...no effort to clean up the item to make it as presentable as possible and then they always say something like "needs a new belt...an easy fix"...Well if it is an easy fix, why didn't they do it so it runs or operates? Are people that unmotivated?

1. Some people are uncomfortable posting on Craigslist and inadvertently leave out obvious important information. They may forget and not now how to get back in and edit their post.

2. Common sense is not common anymore. Anyone can post on Craigslist.

The ones that really irk me are the ads that specifically say to call them and then leave no phone number, or email them and the link does not work.

Overall, I really appreciate Craigslist, even with all the general public that posts there. I've sold and bought some great deals on there over the years. ...so call/email and get your measurements.

PS. I'm sorry your thread has been hijacked. It is likely a conspiracy by the one(s) who posted the CL ad for the door w/o measurements.

Usingmyrights · #23 09/21/12, 09:08 AM

Dang. I really derailed this thread. Sorry Laura. I'll give an example of a person I knew. I worked at a gun shop at the time and a regular customer was a union guy. He was either a plumber or welder, dont remember which. Anyway, every time he came in the shop he had some worn boots, overalls and usually a camo t-shirt. He was a big guy, scruffy looking and would probably quickly be labeled a redneck. He loaded his own ammo and had expensive taste in guns. Something I didn't find out til later was he was also a big fan of koi and had tens if thousands of dollars in his koi setup. So while be rough and the edges he still had a degree of class. I think that'd probably be the biggest difference between rednecks amd white/trailer trash. Some class vs no class.

I don't really agree with the dictionary definitions besides those that use the historical ones. Rednecks can be educated, aren't always racist or bigots, etc.

Silvercreek Farmer · #24 09/21/12, 09:19 AM

If you think the folks on craigslist are backwards, try out your local classifieds. The ability to use a computer is in and of its self, a filter, plus comes with the benefit of not being limited to 20 words, pictures, and ability to be taken down after the item is sold. I gave up on the local classifieds after 90% of my calls were answered with "SOLD".

I love craigslist, I have bought and sold tons of farm and household items with about a 90%+ satisfaction rate. Without it, I would probably be forced to buy new, because I don't have the time to tour the county looking for what ever I want sitting in someone's front yard.

fantasymaker · #25 09/21/12, 09:58 AM

The bigest reason for the OPs complaint is simply
IGNORANCE.
Now thats not a insult...honest.
Grandma got a new door she knows the carpenter went down to the store and got a new one the same as the electrician got a new wall socket.
It just makes scence to her they both come in a standard size.
Even if they dont she would know what the sizes are.

I think its the same for the rest of that grage full of stuff people are gettin rid of.
Will it damage it if I wash it? perhaps its better just to sell it first and let someone that knows take care of it.

Silvercreek Farmer · #26 09/21/12, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantasymaker

The bigest reason for the OPs complaint is simply
IGNORANCE.
Now thats not a insult...honest.
Grandma got a new door she knows the carpenter went down to the store and got a new one the same as the electrician got a new wall socket.
It just makes scence to her they both come in a standard size.
Even if they dont she would know what the sizes are.

I think its the same for the rest of that grage full of stuff people are gettin rid of.
Will it damage it if I wash it? perhaps its better just to sell it first and let someone that knows take care of it.

True that. The best deals often come from those who do not know what they have...

haypoint · #27 09/21/12, 01:30 PM

The ones that drive me wild are :" I've got a XTZ-3626 in great shape. Must sell right away. $500." with no hint as what it is or "I've got some fence for sale, best offer."with no hint on what kind or how much fence or " I have 300 heavy T posts for sale." with no hint on how tall or how much.

I've learned there is a reason someone is selling " needs a belt, needs a battery, needs a starter, needs a tuneup." Because as soon as you fix that you'll learn there's a lot more wrong with it.

Yvonne's hubby · #28 09/21/12, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mom in oklahoma

adjective
3.
Also, red-necked . narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary:

Aha.... Now I know where NPR gets its title!

Danaus29 · #29 09/21/12, 02:32 PM

Trash is trash, doesn't matter where they are from. Even rich people can be trash.

Laura, I bet if you would have had your hand on a bottle of pepper spray he would have been a lot less appreciative.

As for craigslist ads, yeah for free I can see giving away something that might not be in the best condition like a chainsaw that needs a new blade and tune, trashed mowers that have still usable parts, etc. But the free tree if you cut it down ones crack me up. I was nice and emailed who's tree was laying on the electric lines and let them know that it would be taken down for free by the electric company.

I have seen ads where people want to sell torn up couches, pee stained mattresses, wrecked cars with blown engines for a little under book value, and so on.

The worst are the ones that are trying to sell stuff in the wanted section. IMO those people are plain jerks.

Have you seen the ads where people are selling something 10 years old for a few bucks less than it costs new in the store? For Pete's sake, if I was going to spend that much money I would buy it from the store and get the mfg warranty. Why pay new prices for your old worn out beat up crap?

fellini123 · #30 09/21/12, 03:41 PM

Been searching for a horse. The horse ads can be hystirical, very funny!! LOL
Like.......Horse for sale, extremely beautiful, wonderful mover, must sell quickly. Must call xxx-xxxx do not have computer.
No picture, no price, no size, no color, no age. Why bother!!LOL

Alice in Virginia