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04/17/12, 03:50 PM
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tell me about DE
I picked some up at TSC the other day, but its a darker grey, not white. also says its got calcium benonite in it. says food grade tho too.
so how does one use this? or is this kind no good to eat? I would like to try it on myself, the dogs and goats and maybe chickens.
do you put it in something like applesauce or what? I surely do not wish to grab a spoon and eat this stuff that I have, as is.
http://www.redlakeearth.com/RedLakeEarth.html
eta, link to what I have
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04/17/12, 08:47 PM
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Some people have had bad experiences using it as a wormer, so that's something to consider. You'll hear a lot more about that soon. That brand may be OK to ingest, but there are concerns about bentonite possibly containing too much aluminum. I considered it myself and decided against it because of the bentonite content. Bentonite is used by some people as a detoxifying adsorbent, though. I'm not sure if that's calcium bentonite or another type. If you do choose to ingest it, mix it with water and drink.
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04/18/12, 05:18 AM
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Believe it or not....
My eldest daughter works at TSC. She was telling me of two products they just added to the 'must produce ID and be over 18 to purchase' list.
One is those really sticky fly strips. The other is DE.
Huh?
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04/18/12, 06:45 AM
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Another thread on DE!
Seriously, there was a loooong thread just recently on DE, so perhaps a quick read through that one can answer your questions, and maybe some questions you haven't thought of yet. Both sides (pro and con) are represented throughout. Trying to be helpful, not snarky.
Link to that thread:
Anyone taking Diatomaceous Earth?
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04/18/12, 08:24 AM
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hey, thanks for the link! I knew there was plenty about it here, but even with search, I couldn't find it!?
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04/18/12, 08:31 AM
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You're welcome. I first searched on DE... there were a few short threads. So, searched on diatomaceous earth and found it. You'll have to read around the bickering... but that's true for most threads!
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04/18/12, 09:50 AM
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egads, just spent way too much of my morning fishing thru it all. in fact, never mind, I wish I hadn't posted this!! after all that I feel less informed than before I read all of it! eek! scientific proof vs. real ppl proof, real proof vs. placebo, heavy poisons vs. trace minerals.
dang, what a subject!!
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04/18/12, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chewie
egads, just spent way too much of my morning fishing thru it all. in fact, never mind, I wish I hadn't posted this!! after all that I feel less informed than before I read all of it! eek! scientific proof vs. real ppl proof, real proof vs. placebo, heavy poisons vs. trace minerals.
dang, what a subject!!
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Keep in mind that some of the naysayers in that thread had NEVER even used DE. It is hard to find good information on it because a lot of what's out there in favor of it is hype, and a lot of the anti-DE stuff comes from people with no relevant education or experience. Anyway, good luck!
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04/18/12, 12:28 PM
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a lot of the anti-DE stuff comes from people with no relevant education or experience.
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Much of it comes from Universities and Veterinarians, as well as REAL people who have tried it and had no beneficial results.
Even a lot of the "studies" that promote it qualify their findings.
It still comes back to the FACT that it's nothing more than powdered ROCK, chemically identical to sand
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04/18/12, 04:02 PM
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...and thus it begins AGAIN! 
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04/18/12, 06:55 PM
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...and thus it begins AGAIN! |
This time, I'll refrain from arguing ad nauseum with people who have no first hand experience. The other thread was specifically about humans consuming DE, and for some reason a few people felt the need to argue about veterinary use. That's more relevant in this thread and I have no experience using it for livestock or pets so I can't speak to that.
Anyway, I will share what experience I have so far. I started taking 5 grams of DE per day on April 2nd. I have so far not noticed any kind of benefit, but it's only been a couple weeks so I'll continue taking it for now to see if it does anything for me. I also drew blood for lab testing the morning of April 2nd before I took any DE. I will do the same at the beginning of each month and I'll post the results when I get them.
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04/18/12, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanthomas
This time, I'll refrain from arguing ad nauseum with people who have no first hand experience. The other thread was specifically about humans consuming DE, and for some reason a few people felt the need to argue about veterinary use. That's more relevant in this thread and I have no experience using it for livestock or pets so I can't speak to that.
Anyway, I will share what experience I have so far. I started taking 5 grams of DE per day on April 2nd. I have so far not noticed any kind of benefit, but it's only been a couple weeks so I'll continue taking it for now to see if it does anything for me. I also drew blood for lab testing the morning of April 2nd before I took any DE. I will do the same at the beginning of each month and I'll post the results when I get them.
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I hope it helps, I truely do.
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04/18/12, 09:27 PM
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...and thus it begins AGAIN! |
The truth about it doesn't change
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04/19/12, 06:24 AM
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The truth about it doesn't change
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No, your opinion about it doesn't change.
Why can't you "live and let live"?
If people find positive things with it, then allow them that.
You are not always right.
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04/19/12, 06:31 AM
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I looked at your title with great interes " Tell me about DE" and my reaction was oh someone is interested in finding out about our wonderful small state of Delaware, let me in here..........
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04/19/12, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanthomas
This time, I'll refrain from arguing ad nauseum with people who have no first hand experience. The other thread was specifically about humans consuming DE, and for some reason a few people felt the need to argue about veterinary use. That's more relevant in this thread and I have no experience using it for livestock or pets so I can't speak to that.
Anyway, I will share what experience I have so far. I started taking 5 grams of DE per day on April 2nd. I have so far not noticed any kind of benefit, but it's only been a couple weeks so I'll continue taking it for now to see if it does anything for me. I also drew blood for lab testing the morning of April 2nd before I took any DE. I will do the same at the beginning of each month and I'll post the results when I get them.
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I don't know about DE, don't take it and don't want to. That said, personal experience isn't the same as scientific evidence. Let's say that your health improves after starting DE. That doesn't mean that the DE does it. If you start DE and your health declines, it doesn't necessarily mean the DE did it. Large studies are more helpful because it can show if one person's experiences are experienced over a large population.
You can think of this like the silicone breast lawsuits. Dow-Corning fought lawsuits for years because women developed breast cancer, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and other autoimmune disorders. In 1998 there was a multi-billion dollar settlement that put the company in bankruptcy. The problem with all this is that scientists discovered that these disorders aren't any more common in those who have silicone breast implants than in the general population.
Personal experience isn't necessarily repeatable. Think about another controversial HT topic: colloidal silver. People say they take it and have never had a problem with it. Few people do. But science has shown that some people turn gray. I could take it and have no problem. My personal experience doesn't mean much if you take it and permanently turn gray.
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Originally Posted by ryanthomas
This time, I'll refrain from arguing ad nauseum with people who have no first hand experience. The other thread was specifically about humans consuming DE, and for some reason a few people felt the need to argue about veterinary use. That's more relevant in this thread and I have no experience using it for livestock or pets so I can't speak to that.
Anyway, I will share what experience I have so far. I started taking 5 grams of DE per day on April 2nd. I have so far not noticed any kind of benefit, but it's only been a couple weeks so I'll continue taking it for now to see if it does anything for me. I also drew blood for lab testing the morning of April 2nd before I took any DE. I will do the same at the beginning of each month and I'll post the results when I get them.
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please do, I'd love to hear it. hubs' knees and back are always sore, and I'm tired much of the time. would love something that cuold help us a bit.
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04/19/12, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshie
I don't know about DE, don't take it and don't want to. That said, personal experience isn't the same as scientific evidence. Let's say that your health improves after starting DE. That doesn't mean that the DE does it. If you start DE and your health declines, it doesn't necessarily mean the DE did it. Large studies are more helpful because it can show if one person's experiences are experienced over a large population.
You can think of this like the silicone breast lawsuits. Dow-Corning fought lawsuits for years because women developed breast cancer, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and other autoimmune disorders. In 1998 there was a multi-billion dollar settlement that put the company in bankruptcy. The problem with all this is that scientists discovered that these disorders aren't any more common in those who have silicone breast implants than in the general population.
Personal experience isn't necessarily repeatable. Think about another controversial HT topic: colloidal silver. People say they take it and have never had a problem with it. Few people do. But science has shown that some people turn gray. I could take it and have no problem. My personal experience doesn't mean much if you take it and permanently turn gray.
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Absolutely, but personal experience is valuable to some people, especially in areas where there have been few scientific studies done. I won't claim that DE causes any particular effects, but I'll share what happens while I take it. People can make their own decisions from there.
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