Gonna build a barn

BobbyB · #1 04/08/12, 03:05 PM

I'm planning a barn , probably start it early Summer.

Its going to be a monitor style more or less like this

http://bioengr.ag.utk.edu/Extension/...lans/T4161.pdf

I am just using these plans for a basic idea and will scale mine down.

I wish I could build it this size but I have stay within our means. But, I was wondering if anyone here has built one themselves, and have any suggestions or things to avoid.

PD-Riverman · #2 04/08/12, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyB

I'm planning a barn , probably start it early Summer.

Its going to be a monitor style more or less like this

http://bioengr.ag.utk.edu/Extension/...lans/T4161.pdf

I am just using these plans for a basic idea and will scale mine down.

I wish I could build it this size but I have stay within our means. But, I was wondering if anyone here has built one themselves, and have any suggestions or things to avoid.

Why not build as big of a center part as you want or can afford now. Then when you can add the lean-2 shed down one side then when you can again---add the other side. Good Luck!

BobbyB · #3 04/08/12, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PD-Riverman

Why not build as big of a center part as you want or can afford now. Then when you can add the lean-2 shed down one side then when you can again---add the other side. Good Luck!

It's probably going to be built just that way. Thing is as every one knows, no matter how big you build a shop or a barn, it's never big enough.

It will be as big as I can possibly build it I can assure you of that.

FarmboyBill · #4 04/08/12, 05:12 PM

No fence ment, But I dont see what alla u southerners see in that monitor barn. Eveery old barn regardless how tiny it is is built with a monitor roof. I had to help my neighbor build his barn and he insisted thats what it had to be regardless of my tryin to talk him outa it for a straight A frame roof. Guess what? now that he HAS his monitor roof, He had to drop the attached roofs around 4ft. at least 3 from the roof in the center section. That made his 2 shed roofs have a much less slope. THAT made the wind to get under them more at there edges and bring them loose.
Its gotta cost more to build the 2 raised portons on the sides of the center section.

BobbyB · #5 04/08/12, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmBoyBill

No fence ment, But I dont see what alla u southerners see in that monitor barn. Eveery old barn regardless how tiny it is is built with a monitor roof. I had to help my neighbor build his barn and he insisted thats what it had to be regardless of my tryin to talk him outa it for a straight A frame roof. Guess what? now that he HAS his monitor roof, He had to drop the attached roofs around 4ft. at least 3 from the roof in the center section. That made his 2 shed roofs have a much less slope. THAT made the wind to get under them more at there edges and bring them loose.
Its gotta cost more to build the 2 raised portons on the sides of the center section.

No fence taken, but it sounds to me like p**s poor planning all the way round. The center roof is supposed to be high enough to allow for the side roofs.

Not sure about your Southerner comment either. Looking across the net, I saw as many pics with snow as without.

I like the design , always have, Im paying for it, and that , my friend is pretty much that.

PD-Riverman · #6 04/08/12, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyB

It's probably going to be built just that way. Thing is as every one knows, no matter how big you build a shop or a barn, it's never big enough.

It will be as big as I can possibly build it I can assure you of that.

Bobby I Agree. I bought a 12x20x8ft tall building for $200 years ago and its full. I also got a 40sqft shed that I closed in 30x30ft of and it was more than I would ever need until it got so much stuff under it that I could not put my tractor under it any more. I bought a 10x12 shed and moved some things into it so I could get my tractor back under the shed---its full and tractor back in the open, so I bought a 40ft shipping container and moved enough stuff into it to get my tractor under it again. Before long the shipping container was full and my tractor was parked in the open again. I gave up and built a shed big enough to keep my tractor and another tractor under if I wanted. Before long I bought a second tractor and soon after I bought a New Idea 1 row corn picker---I hated for it to be setting out in the weather so I built a 23x32ftx14ft tall closed in on the sides and back shed to put my corn picker under had so much room I put my new tractor under it too, well before long It had so much stuff under it I went and built a 6ft x 23ft shelf across the back end---that gave me alot more room, had already put another piece of equipment under the shed with my older tractor. It filled up fast. I started buying and re-selling then I built a temporary hoop shed to store a bunch of things I bought at a auction, the hoop shed is 12 x 30ft and I did re-sell the Items but bought more and filled up the hoop shed again. Then a few years later I Closed down the part time re-sell business and needed some room to store some things and I found a good deal on 2 40ft shipping containers on craigslist for about the normal price of one. I had them delivered and set 12ft apart but I know I would never need a shed built where I could store things between them. I put some things in one container from the closed down business and had the other one empty------well as time has passed I have both 40ft containers Filled and I got heavy duty shelves down one side of each where I can store things all the way to the top and they are full. I got stuff on top of the corn picker under the 23x32 shed where it would probably take a hour to get it out if I needed it and very little room for my tractor----so I at this time am building a storage building at my garden with a shed big enough to put my tractor under. Sure hope that will be enough.

If You Want to call me a Hoarder all I will say is YUUUUUUP as Dave says of Storage wars-----I have bought out probably 100 Storage Units in the last 3 years and have re-sold some of it. I tell my children all this will be their Inheratance if I die----they give me One Of Them Looks---LOL

BobbyB · #7 04/08/12, 06:23 PM

I just wish I still had all the stuff I have left behind or got rid of over the years because I didnt have a place to put it any more.

This barn will replace a little shed I built when we first moved here. Plus some.

Hay over head, tractor in the middle, goats on one side. Feed room with fridge and a milking room for Karla and her new projects on the other.

My plans are for 8' of head room upstairs. And depending on several things, I am hoping for 9' in the alley if not 10'. We could live with 8', but again, bigger is almost always better.

I have a new job driving a truck for the local grain elevator/feed store chain. I am told as soon as the wheat and oats start coming in, we will be getting a bunch of OT and again when the milo and corn comes in. The more OT I get the bigger the barn will be.

maverickxxx · #8 04/08/12, 06:44 PM

That is style I'm going to build in a few years. I like it alot.

salmonslayer · #9 04/08/12, 07:44 PM

I have always found that type of barn visually pleasing and a version I particularly like is the tobacco barns of NC. So are you going all wood or metal clad?

BobbyB · #10 04/08/12, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by salmonslayer

I have always found that type of barn visually pleasing and a version I particularly like is the tobacco barns of NC. So are you going all wood or metal clad?

Thinking seriously about using wood on the end that will face the house. But it actually all depends on cost as to what gets used overall

just_sawing · #11 04/09/12, 07:03 AM

Why build a Monitor
1 This allows the center ceiling to have height that is higher than the live stock.
2. The hay storage is above the open center(NON live stock) and this gives a better air circulation for the hay
3 THe monitor style allows the hay to be deliveried from the sides (This gets ommitted much anymore which is a shame)
4 The high center also creates a draft from the center doors than has the effect of cooling the side stalls
5 By building the monitor in three builds this allows a budget to be allowanced in three different times.
Now that I have defended the Monitor I will give some of teh short comings.
A. The typical Hall dimension is not wide enough for modern equipment. 12 feet is typical 16 is huge but that has limititations.
B. The typical hay loft height ends up not haveing the storage needed. If you have the barn full of hungrey mouths the hay storage is minimal
C The typical design giving outside access to the stals ends up having a mud problem. You are acessing the barn from all sides two for equipment and two sides for livestock. Where does the water go?
I recomend Monitors for people here even though they are not as popular as others.
Also the monitor is easier to work on due to the lower side roofs and angle.

Batt · #12 04/09/12, 08:34 AM

Do you mean something like this?
Gonna build a barn - Homesteading Questions

I built this about 3 years ago. It is 30' x 32'. Loft will hold about 400 bales of hay. It has a summer kitchen, milk room, feed room 20 x 22' chicken area, and a "Garden Room" for storing gardening equipment. Love it!

ronbre · #13 04/09/12, 08:41 AM

well it sounds to me like you have done your homework and you know what you want and why you want it..so do it.

I have often let people talk me out of something to something different or less, and ended up really sorry I did

jwal10 · #14 04/09/12, 09:43 AM

Another plan when you don't have the money all at once. Build the front facing the weather and build 1,2,3,4 stalls deep, no back wall, the large material part. Add as money becomes available. This way you have the end and sides done as you go, add depth later. This way you have the side stalls to use. You can put up the end wall and move it with the additions. I understand the Monitor style but like Bill I like the full A roof, not drop down sheds. No loft to have to put hay up into, all ground level. Takes less siding....just 1 length. It is your barn and you need to do what makes you happy....James

salmonslayer · #15 04/09/12, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyB

Thinking seriously about using wood on the end that will face the house. But it actually all depends on cost as to what gets used overall

I built a pole barn shop last spring and would have loved to have sided it in wood but the cost was way high so I know what you mean...but with the price of anything metal now days it might be evening out. I know some of the Amish around here do some rough cut lumber that is pretty economical so you might check around for a small mill.

And Batt; nicely done barn.

FarmboyBill · #16 04/09/12, 10:24 AM

Well, as said. No fence ment. Im going to use my 2 hip roof barns currently serving as a house for my new farm assumeing I get it. I dont like hip roof barns either, but, Since thats what ive got. Id love to be able to elevate at least the 40footer 8ft in the air for a hay loft, But dont see as how to do it, so thats out.

agmantoo · #17 04/09/12, 10:53 AM

I have been trying with no luck to give this one away for someone willing to use it for other than kindling. It is located near the intersection of I-77 and I-40 in western NC.
Gonna build a barn - Homesteading Questions

FarmboyBill · #18 04/09/12, 11:38 AM

O IF I could only have that here LOL.

mahto · #19 04/09/12, 12:32 PM

Had the Mennonites build a 40X60 monitor 3 years ago. 12'wings, 16' isle, 1/2 loft. I enclosed an office, canning kitchen and bath, rest is shop storage. 9' drive thru under the loft. I love the light I get through the upper windows, and, besides, it just looks cool! Good luck with yours!

BobbyB · #20 04/09/12, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by agmantoo

I have been trying with no luck to give this one away for someone willing to use it for other than kindling. It is located near the intersection of I-77 and I-40 in western NC.
Gonna build a barn - Homesteading Questions

I'll take it. You need directions for delivery??

FarmBoyBill, there are 2 ways I know of to lift your barn. Ive seen it done both ways.

First is manually all the way. Put beams under it and jack it high as you can. Then you criss cross rail road ties under the beams and repeat. Keep jacking and stacking ties until you have it as high as you want.

It takes a load of ties, but I have seen a couple of mobile homes done this way on the coast so the could set pilings and frame under it to keep it above flood waters.

Didnt say it was easy, but it can be done.

Second is to hire a house mover that has the hydraulic scissors mover. They get under it and can lift it up to about 10 feet and then you set you poles and frame to hold it up. I saw this used to move a portable classroom and talked to the mover. he told me they had done the same thing on the coast to get old houses and trailers up out of the flood zone.

It can be done, either lots of cross ties and labor or write a check.