Fence posts in wrong direction - reverse insulators?

[Heritagefarm]

Our neighbor has put tposts up, but no fence. He has also put the tposts facing his property, which would be fine except he hasn't put the fence up yet. He wants barbwire, and he will put that on his side. However, we have goats and sheep and require field fence or high-tensile. We'd like to put high-tensile and our side, but I don't know if we can with the posts in the wrong direction. Do they make short reverse insulators? There are plenty of the 5" type, but those are not meant for high-tension fence. Any suggestions?
TIA!

[unregistered41671]

Yep, never share a fence with a neighbor. You may get along fine right now but you never know. Lots of future possible problems if either one sells etc. Put posts on your side of the line a few inches from the line. I would not want anyone putting wire on my posts.

[wwubben]

Why not use regular electric wire?I would not want high tensile on all steel posts.

[arabian knight]

Yes they have reverse insulators, I use them all the time.

[J.T.M.]

Originally Posted by wwubben

Why not use regular electric wire?I would not want high tensile on all steel posts.

May I ask why not ...

[J.T.M.]

Originally Posted by arabian knight

Yes they have reverse insulators, I use them all the time.

Me too ,with HT wire.

[nc_mtn]

Wouldn't it be pointless to have high tensile only a few inches (the other side of the post) from the barbwire? The HT would stretch and interweave with the barbed if an animal tried going through it. The extra wire may make the fence look more solid or look like less holes therefore discouraging a animal from attempting it, but that same thing could be accomplished cheaper with the regular cheaper electric wire mentioned above

Just my 2 cents

[Ozarks Tom]

I don't see the advantage to HT vs regular electric wire for small stock. It's the shock that deters the animals, not the strength of the wire. We keep our wire tensioned with springs at the corners.

[J.T.M.]

I was just wondering if wwubben know of an issue that I havnt heard of is all.
But, it is a given that HT will out last your reg wire by yrs. possibly decades.

[Joshie]

Put in your own T-posts. Your posts your fence. Their posts their fence. Have you had you land surveyed?

[oregon woodsmok]

Unless you have mutually agreed to put that fence up, I think I would be upset if my neighbor started fastening things to the posts I was just putting up.

Have you discussed this with your neighbor? Usually, the only reason to put up barbed wire is that it is cheaper. Have you offered to purchase the field fence to go onto those posts? With maybe one row of barbed wire on the top?

I'm just a bit mystified by this complaint that your neighbor is not putting up the type of fence that suits you.

I agree with the suggestion to put up your own posts and hang any type of fence that pleases you on your own posts.

[fantasymaker]

Whose land are the posts on?

[lazyBum]

The rules on this has gotten kind of murky any more. It used to be you had to maintain the fence on half the property line or pay for half of the cost of the fence to put animals against a boundary fence. If your neighbor wanted to put up a fence and you didnt contribute, then you couldn't put animals there until you reimbursed them. I don't know if that was an actual law, but thats the way things used to be in this area.

[Bearfootfarm]

Put up your own fence
That one belongs to him

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by nc_mtn

Wouldn't it be pointless to have high tensile only a few inches (the other side of the post) from the barbwire? The HT would stretch and interweave with the barbed if an animal tried going through it. The extra wire may make the fence look more solid or look like less holes therefore discouraging a animal from attempting it, but that same thing could be accomplished cheaper with the regular cheaper electric wire mentioned above

Just my 2 cents

I guess I've got a little bit of clarifying to do. The fence is bare right now, it's just tposts and corners. The neighbor has horses, so he wants barbwire. (Don't know why.) If we put field fence up, his pets will trash the fence. So, he wants barbwire, but that can't work for small animals. Thus, we will be putting HT on our side and barb on his side. Why? Well, we were going to put his barbwire up, but he claims he's "too poor" to put it up. (He's been here 7 years and just got his fence up.) Why HT? Because I like it, it looks great, it far outlasts cheaper wire. I've had experience with that thin stuff and it doesn't really last. Plus we have cows AND sheep, so it needs to be cow-tough and sheep-tight.

Originally Posted by Ozarks Tom

I don't see the advantage to HT vs regular electric wire for small stock. It's the shock that deters the animals, not the strength of the wire. We keep our wire tensioned with springs at the corners.

We have big stock as well; see above.

Originally Posted by J.T.M.

I was just wondering if wwubben know of an issue that I havnt heard of is all.
But, it is a given that HT will out last your reg wire by yrs. possibly decades.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Joshie

Put in your own T-posts. Your posts your fence. Their posts their fence. Have you had you land surveyed?

No. The neighbor also claims he owns our driveway. What a nice guy.
And, I think it would look very odd to have double-fencing. Not to mention he might just take HIS fence down and jaunt off with it!

Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok

Unless you have mutually agreed to put that fence up, I think I would be upset if my neighbor started fastening things to the posts I was just putting up.

Have you discussed this with your neighbor? Usually, the only reason to put up barbed wire is that it is cheaper. Have you offered to purchase the field fence to go onto those posts? With maybe one row of barbed wire on the top?

I'm just a bit mystified by this complaint that your neighbor is not putting up the type of fence that suits you.

I agree with the suggestion to put up your own posts and hang any type of fence that pleases you on your own posts.

He already put up the tposts, so they are there. We've got 1,500 feet of field fence laying around, so we figured we could put that up but as already mentioned, his horses would trash it. (Also, HT is actually cheaper than barbwire.) Also, it's not the neighbor putting up the wrong kind of fence - I could could care less what he threw up, just long as it worked.

[fordy]

Originally Posted by Heritagefarm

I guess I've got a little bit of clarifying to do. The fence is bare right now, it's just tposts and corners. The neighbor has horses, so he wants barbwire. (Don't know why.) If we put field fence up, his pets will trash the fence. So, he wants barbwire, but that can't work for small animals. Thus, we will be putting HT on our side and barb on his side. Why? Well, we were going to put his barbwire up, but he claims he's "too poor" to put it up. (He's been here 7 years and just got his fence up.) Why HT? Because I like it, it looks great, it far outlasts cheaper wire. I've had experience with that thin stuff and it doesn't really last. Plus we have cows AND sheep, so it needs to be cow-tough and sheep-tight.



We have big stock as well; see above.



Exactly.



No. The neighbor also claims he owns our driveway. What a nice guy.
And, I think it would look very odd to have double-fencing. Not to mention he might just take HIS fence down and jaunt off with it!



He already put up the tposts, so they are there. We've got 1,500 feet of field fence laying around, so we figured we could put that up but as already mentioned, his horses would trash it. (Also, HT is actually cheaper than barbwire.) Also, it's not the neighbor putting up the wrong kind of fence - I could could care less what he threw up, just long as it worked.

.................Depending upon HisTpost spacing you can still run FF on 'your' side , just drive Tposts in between his intervals ! FF , IF stretched correctly will require much stronger corners and H's than Bwire ! Build Your own H's and corners for FF , OR , reinforce his corners too adequately holdup your FF . For his Tposts, you can purchase concrete tie wire and one of those little handheld bobbers that "spins" the 'eyes' of the tie wires tightly together.........just like the concrete guys do when they are installing Rebar for a foundation ! , fordy

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by fantasymaker

Whose land are the posts on?

They're on his land and I want to put fence up for him for free.
JK, it's a boundary fence!

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by fordy

.................Depending upon HisTpost spacing you can still run FF on 'your' side , just drive Tposts in between his intervals ! FF , IF stretched correctly will require much stronger corners and H's than Bwire ! Build Your own H's and corners for FF , OR , reinforce his corners too adequately holdup your FF . For his Tposts, you can purchase concrete tie wire and one of those little handheld bobbers that "spins" the 'eyes' of the tie wires tightly together.........just like the concrete guys do when they are installing Rebar for a foundation ! , fordy

An interesting proposition. But don't worry, he put up steel braces, so they can handle field fence.

[Bearfootfarm]

Not to mention he might just take HIS fence down and jaunt off with it!

He might STILL do that, even after you put your fence on it, since it's on HIS land and it's HIS posts.

You'll come out ahead in the long run to build your own fence, on YOUR land

[BarbadosSheep]

But if you put hot wire on top of the field fences, his horses won't be able to mess the fence up. But yeah...I agree....I'd put your own posts in, even if they are right next to his on the property line. Then put whatever kind of fence you want on it.

Why does he say he owns your driveway? Does he have proof of that?