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Old 03/07/12, 08:35 AM
 
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Tapping Black Walnut trees for sap/syrup

Does anyone have any experience tapping Black Walnut? We are wondering what the flavor is like and if it's worth it in sap production to do it. We have lots of Black Walnut here, but not much in the way of Birch and Maple.

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You are kidding, right?
Out of all the trees, Maples produce sweet sap. Even among Maples, it is the single variety, Sugar Maple that has enough sugar to be worth the time to tap, collect and hours upon hours of carefully cooking the water out to make syrup.
You might get a little sap out of other maples and perhaps a bit from a Birch.

Black Walnut trees produce a toxin that infibits plants and other trees from growing near them. The husks on the nuts are very bitter. Even sawdust from walnut trees can not be used for animal bedding.

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No, I'm not kidding. Others are doing it.

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There are people here that tap black walnut and other types of trees. If you are interested I could hunt up their post of information on another forum.

You don't have to live "up north" to tap trees either.

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You'll have to let me know how it turns out. I, personally, don't care for the flavor of black walnuts, and if the sap has a similar flavor, I wouldn't be interested, however, my husband LOVES them and we have quite a few black walnuts here in the Ohio Valley.

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There are people here that tap black walnut and other types of trees. If you are interested I could hunt up their post of information on another forum.

You don't have to live "up north" to tap trees either.
That would be awesome! I have searched high and low on Google, and there just isn't a lot of information available on this. :/ I live in PA but don't have access to any Sugar Maples. However, a neighbor has tons of Black Walnut trees and I'm sure he'd let us tap them in exchange for some syrup. Before we go through all of that, I'd just like to know about the taste of it. Any info you could pass my way will be very helpful. Thank you for offering! :>)
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You'll have to let me know how it turns out. I, personally, don't care for the flavor of black walnuts, and if the sap has a similar flavor, I wouldn't be interested, however, my husband LOVES them and we have quite a few black walnuts here in the Ohio Valley.
Exactly. I'm not a fan of the flavor of the nuts either, but I don't know if the sap will contain that flavor or not. If so, your hubby would probably love it. I'll post back if I have enough time to tap a tree and reduce the sap. Thanks for replying!
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There are people here that tap black walnut and other types of trees. If you are interested I could hunt up their post of information on another forum.

You don't have to live "up north" to tap trees either.
That would be great. We are in Kansas, and tapping trees is on my never ending list of things to do.
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Not black walnuts, but I sampled syrup than had been made from hickory nuts. If you like hickory nuts, like I do, it was very good. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to experiment with black walnut sap.

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Not black walnuts, but I sampled syrup than had been made from hickory nuts. If you like hickory nuts, like I do, it was very good. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to experiment with black walnut sap.
I just happened to come across info on Black Hickory and Alder as sources of sap for syrup today in my researching. So, it tasted like hickory nuts, then? I believe we have lots of hickory trees nearby, so I wouldn't put it past myself to give it a try. Thanks for your input!
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I sent a message to the poster on the other forum. What I remember is that there are a lot of different trees that can be taped.

It may be too late for this year in the more southern areas. Wish I could remember the temps required. It is warming up in general here and the nights are coming out of the 30's into the 40's.

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You can tap birch trees also. In the russian stores here they sell birch water as a drink.

Miboje, that was an awesome viedeo. I had no idea that the hulls could be used for making tooth powder.

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That would be awesome! I have searched high and low on Google, and there just isn't a lot of information available on this. :/ I live in PA but don't have access to any Sugar Maples. However, a neighbor has tons of Black Walnut trees and I'm sure he'd let us tap them in exchange for some syrup. Before we go through all of that, I'd just like to know about the taste of it. Any info you could pass my way will be very helpful. Thank you for offering! :>)
Wait a second! I don't recall giving anyone permission to tap my black walnuts...

Oh wait, I guess I'm not your PA neighbor...

Please let us know how you make out, because I may have to try it next year if it turns out okay...
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You can tap birch trees also. In the russian stores here they sell birch water as a drink.

Miboje, that was an awesome viedeo. I had no idea that the hulls could be used for making tooth powder.
That was an interesting video, I was surprised to all the uses.. I might have to try some of it...
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I sent a message to the poster on the other forum. What I remember is that there are a lot of different trees that can be taped.

It may be too late for this year in the more southern areas. Wish I could remember the temps required. It is warming up in general here and the nights are coming out of the 30's into the 40's.
Thank you! I think we are approaching the end of tapping season, but we might be able to get some sap before the Black Walnuts start breaking buds. Night temps are still freezing, but the days are getting in the 50s+.
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You can tap birch trees also. In the russian stores here they sell birch water as a drink.

Miboje, that was an awesome viedeo. I had no idea that the hulls could be used for making tooth powder.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. :>) I found it very informative, too. I'm just getting into understanding the medicinal and food uses of trees. It's quite fascinating.
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No, I'm not kidding. Others are doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glttJICtkd0
Growing up, I could never get away with the "others are doing it" gambit... always lost, when I was told to go play in the traffic, or jump off a bridge.

If you have a black walnut tree, when it starts greening up, snap off a branch, peel back the bark, and partake of the sap....

...there is a reason that there isn't widespread utilization of black walnuts, for syrup...

...but you 'can do it'...
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I want to try to make the tinture and the tooth powder, but I am going to have to wait until next season. I have walnut hull stored up but some of them had mold on them. I am saving the hulls for wood stain so the mold does not really matter for that, but I am not putting mold in my mouth.

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Growing up, I could never get away with the "others are doing it" gambit... always lost, when I was told to go play in the traffic, or jump off a bridge.

If you have a black walnut tree, when it starts greening up, snap off a branch, peel back the bark, and partake of the sap....

...there is a reason that there isn't widespread utilization of black walnuts, for syrup...

...but you 'can do it'...
Wow. Thanks for the philosophy lesson. Could you be a little more condescending next time? Perhaps it has not occurred that I Am Trying to do research before persuing it.
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I want to try to make the tinture and the tooth powder, but I am going to have to wait until next season. I have walnut hull stored up but some of them had mold on them. I am saving the hulls for wood stain so the mold does not really matter for that, but I am not putting mold in my mouth.
Trappers in my area use the husks to stain traps so they don't rust. It has a nice browning effect...
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