I really hate these stove pipes

Heritagefarm · #1 03/04/12, 06:14 PM

We've just moved and put up our stove in our house, using new stove pipes. If I go to hell, the devil will assign me to work on stove pipes and plumbing. I absolutely hate this stuff; the black paint on it sends up tons of toxic fumes the first couple times you use it, and then, after every last speck of paint is gone, it rusts. Is there no better option? Have you found better pipes for indoor woodstoves or do you just suck it up that the pipe companies make crap for piping?

Barnhouse · #2 03/04/12, 06:24 PM

I was living in a home that had a woodstove, and now I have a pellet stove. These stove pipes are just plain, no paint. Is there supposed to be some benefit to painted pipes?

Heritagefarm · #3 03/04/12, 06:25 PM

What do you mean by "plain"?

Barnhouse · #4 03/04/12, 06:29 PM

They're just plain metal pipes- no paint.

Barnhouse · #5 03/04/12, 06:34 PM

BTW, I hated the woodstove, but love the pellet stove.

Heritagefarm · #6 03/04/12, 06:43 PM

I found some stainless steel pipes - I think I'll be going with these from now on.
http://www.ventingpipe.com/duravent-...ce=gba_1760202
Anyone else using indoor stainless steel stovepipes?

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Originally Posted by Barnhouse

They're just plain metal pipes- no paint.

Can you tell if it's bare steel, or galvanized?

Barnhouse · #7 03/04/12, 06:48 PM

Galvanized was installed with this stove before I got here and there doesn't appear to be any problems with rust whatsoever.
I know it's a concern with water pipes but as for the stove, no problems.

SilverVista · #8 03/04/12, 06:50 PM

I know exactly what Heritagefarm is talking about! Bare steel, painted black, paint burns off almost immediately and for the next 25 years the joints rust and the pipe makes the whole room look like you can't be bothered to keep things looking nice. Grrrrr.

"SPIKE" · #9 03/04/12, 07:03 PM

http://www.lowes.com/pd_37620-85178-...ipe&facetInfo=

SPIKE

Heritagefarm · #10 03/04/12, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnhouse

Galvanized was installed with this stove before I got here and there doesn't appear to be any problems with rust whatsoever.
I know it's a concern with water pipes but as for the stove, no problems.

Ah, I see. I didn't know you could use galvanized for stove pipe.

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Originally Posted by SilverVista

I know exactly what Heritagefarm is talking about! Bare steel, painted black, paint burns off almost immediately and for the next 25 years the joints rust and the pipe makes the whole room look like you can't be bothered to keep things looking nice. Grrrrr.

Ah, good, misery loves company! Not only that, but the pipe is very hard to work with, and like you said looks awful and like you're poverty stricken, even though you spend a (relatively) large amount of a money.
I saw those pipes at Lowes, indeed, but double-walled is really expensive and only necessary for outside. That, and they don't make elbows for them. The link I posted, I found single-walled stainless pipe. I'm thinking that would do just the thing!
Also, if we ran double-walled up the side of the house, we could instead build a brick chimney!

Beeman · #11 03/04/12, 07:35 PM

Bought our black pipe from Lowes. Once the intial stink was gone they have been fine. Paint is still looking good and no flaking or rust. These are the 3 vertical pipes that go straight up from the stove to the metal chimney.

Barnhouse · #12 03/04/12, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Heritagefarm

Ah, I see. I didn't know you could use galvanized for stove pipe.

Apparently you can.

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Overall Safety
If a galvanized stove pipe is properly installed, which means that it leads from a stove into a chimney or other exit, then it should be perfectly safe. The pipe will not leak fumes like it does when it's being welded, nor will it be coming into contact with food or drink. The outside of the pipe should be insulated, so people shouldn't have allergic reactions to touching it.

LINK

TNHermit · #13 03/04/12, 08:26 PM

I go with Beeman. I got three stoves that have nice black paint on the pipe and I never really noticed and odor from the start. but things like that seldom bother me. Only time mine go bad is sticking out in the weather in the shop

Harry Chickpea · #14 03/04/12, 08:30 PM

I just repainted pipes with rustoleum black BBQ paint. If you get it real hot it will grey a little, but never had a problem with it coming off. Zinc fumes are toxic, and I wouldn't use galvanized in a house.

VaFarmer · #15 03/04/12, 09:05 PM

besides the stainless steel pipe for clean no fumes you can buy pipe painted with high temp powder coat paint, but like anything else to get the good stuff is not cheap but it's cheaper than stainless and disapates heat better, and you can get a varity of colors, gloss or flat finishes. I used powder coated on the pellet stove to match the green of the stove, had a gloss black on the previous wood stove and held up great to many a over stoked fire. Galvanized is OK on a pellet stove because theres no heat at the stove pipe. Galvanized is what is standard for a pellet stove.

tinknal · #16 03/04/12, 09:35 PM

How about using stove black on them?

Barnhouse · #17 03/04/12, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VaFarmer

Galvanized is OK on a pellet stove because theres no heat at the stove pipe. Galvanized is what is standard for a pellet stove.

Yup, that makes sense. Thank you.

pheasantplucker · #18 03/05/12, 04:51 AM

I used Duravent (black)...singlewall for most until we reach the ceiling...then doublewall. It only gave off "the smell" the first time we had the stove really crankin'. I had to go up close to 30 feet. Counting the exterior pipe, and all, I probably have $pent almo$t a$ much on $tovepipe a$ I did the $tove. Pricey $tuff, but safety is of prime importance if you ask me.

**Ross** · #19 03/05/12, 05:38 AM

Galvanized pipes will off gas and will flake off the zinc coating. Nasty not to be used with wood stoves the temps just get too hot. Oil furnaces use them as the flue temps should be lower and regardless they are heavier at 28 or 26 guage than duct work using 30 or even lighter!

Texasdirtdigger · #20 03/05/12, 06:10 AM

We have stainless in dh shop area.