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02/16/12, 10:24 PM
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5 gallon gas/diesel cans that work well?
I would like to get some decent 5 gallon diesel cans to transport and dispense diesel fuel to the various pieces of equipment. The cans I have now are old and can be difficult to handle, they have no side handle so you have to hold the thing up by the bottom of the can while waiting for the painfully slow 'glug, glug' draining process. Do they make 5 gallon fuel cans these days that flow the fuel at half way decent rate?
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02/16/12, 10:29 PM
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If anything, the newer 'safer' cans are worse. Slower, and more prone to sliding/dropping off the lip of the tank... I'm thinking about a hose and clamp.
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02/16/12, 10:37 PM
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Look at the No-spill container. It flows a controllable 3 gal/minute and according to the literature has a life time guarantee. It isn't cheap. And you won't find it at Walmart. I use one for two strokes and don't spill a drop. The thumb control and built in handle and hand hold on the bottom make it simple to use.
http://www.gemplers.com/docs/IS/NOSPILLADV.pdf
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02/17/12, 12:01 AM
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Those I have with an air vent plug to loosen before you start pouring works great for me.
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02/17/12, 12:13 AM
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If you're talking about the steel 5-gal "jerry" cans, then there's 2 things you can do/check to help improve flow. One: there are two sizes of flexible spiral steel spouts for those cans; a skinny one and a fat one. The skinny one, you'll get old and die waiting for 5 gallons of fuel to squeeze through that thing. Upgrading to the fat one makes a huge difference. Two: make sure the breather hole isn't blocked. There should be a smalll air hole near the threaded bung. If you're using a nozzle that has a hexagonal flange, make sure you end up with the flange oriented so it doesn't cover the air hole. Some replacement gaskets are too big and will also obscure the air hole. Take a thin piece of wire and poke it in the hole to make sure it isn't clogged with dirt or anything. If the fuel is chugging out, good indication that your breather hole isn't doing its job for one reason or another.
Bad news is that you'll have to go to Ebay to buy replacement spiral spouts for your can. Stores can't retail em anymore. The things they sell as gas cans now are a joke, perpetrated by sickos.
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02/17/12, 12:47 AM
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http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product...oducts_id=1718
I bought these when they were $119. They are expensive but are well
built. Sometimes whenyou go to their site It doesn't work because
they are sold out. They are good enough to pass down for
generations. Get on their mailing list and they will inform you as
to availability and sometimes sales.
Dan
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02/17/12, 02:52 AM
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Jennygray hit it. Get an old (you can buy them new at places) Army "jerry can" they work well and don't have a lot of the issues the new fangled ones have. So much for progress. The trick to getting it to flow well is the vent holes. Army can's have a vent on the end away from the pour spout to let are in. Without a vent hole the air has to come in through the spout thus slowing the flow and slopping around some. A bigger spout will help too, but I'd still look for a vent hole other than the spout.
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02/17/12, 06:35 AM
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If you're determined to buy new, a good can will be expensive. Real hardware stores may have some. Look for names like Eagle in particular.
Otherwise, watch yard sales and get a good old can or two for just a few bucks. That's my preference.
In the 5-gallon size, they all leak a little when you pour. 5 gallons is pretty heavy, and most rims can't hold a perfect seal when you're leaning the can on the spout.
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02/17/12, 07:08 AM
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The old military jerry cans work well IF you can find or make a spout that works well. The metal flex spiral spouts are expensive and dont work that well or at least mine didnt. I use two old jerry cans for diesel for my tractor. I finally made a spout out of stock pvc fittings available Lowes or such. Screws right in (the threads are common pipe thread) and doesnt leak. The vent on these cans is on the rim where the spout screws in (look for little hole under gasket area). The regular transport cap (one on a chain) covers/seals this hole using gasket. When you unscrew the cap and screw in the spout, it opens it up. They designed it this way cause these cans were originally meant to be strapped to jeep going over rough terrain. Didnt need gas coming out the vent. Nor people having to keep track of some little vent cap.
There may well be other jeep jerry cans with alternative vent systems, but all I have run into do it way I describe. The metal jeep cans work well for diesel, not so sure with modern gasoline, think it promotes rust.
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02/17/12, 07:22 AM
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These are not as well built as the previously posted NATO cans but seem like pretty good quality. You don't have to buy 4 and they are less expensive http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=904142
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02/17/12, 07:26 AM
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i use the nato cans as above with the nato spout, can be emptied in about 30 seconds
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02/17/12, 08:48 AM
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you might look at northern tool I think they have what they call a fuel caddy with a small pump i think it holds 12 gallons and is on wheels no more lifting. I thought they were outlawing all plastic fuel cans??
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02/17/12, 10:21 AM
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The new, poly, Black & Decker can, so I am told(wink, wink) spout can be rigged by taking it apart--clipping out the spring retainer--then fixed with a couple of screws to make what used to be a regular pouring spout with a cap on it-thus bypssing the useless "safety" spout. Back in business, no spills onto the tractor, your pants, hands, etc...... (But I wouldn't violate Federal mandated safety rules myself, of course....wink, wnk)
But I got two 2 1/2 gallon cans, though, as the five gallon size is getting too heavy for me to heft up onto the tractor....
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02/17/12, 10:52 AM
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Thanks for the replies, I will look at those options this afternoon. These are the type of 5 gallon jugs we are using now and they don't flow worth a beans. You can see the vent hole in the top of the handle. These things do the clug, clug, deal and airlock then release a small amount, airlock again and so on for the entire five gallons. It just doesn't get enough air and I've been tempted to drill a big hole where that plastic vent is, but then of course you have the potential of contamination if you can't seal the vent hole when not in use.
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I just got a set of these and they work great.
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02/17/12, 01:49 PM
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Regardles of what fuel can you decide on, get and use a large funnel, with an inch or so, opening.
You will be able to pour faster out of any container and there won't be spills, or dribbles on the paint. I can fill the tractor with 5 gals, in about a minute of so.
Most pour spouts stink and if they are good, are usually very slow.
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02/17/12, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geo in mi
The new, poly, Black & Decker can, so I am told(wink, wink) spout can be rigged by taking it apart--clipping out the spring retainer--then fixed with a couple of screws to make what used to be a regular pouring spout with a cap on it-thus bypssing the useless "safety" spout. Back in business, no spills onto the tractor, your pants, hands, etc...... (But I wouldn't violate Federal mandated safety rules myself, of course....wink, wnk)
But I got two 2 1/2 gallon cans, though, as the five gallon size is getting too heavy for me to heft up onto the tractor....
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And since California no longer allows a vent on a fuel can in the USA any more, I've heard some folk drill a hole in the far end where a vent used to be, poke a tubeless tire stem in the hole, take the valve stem out, and then use the stem cap as a vent.
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02/17/12, 09:26 PM
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5 gallon used hydraulic or engine oil pails work good, as long as they're the vented ones. Good-sized funnel and you're ready to go. Probably not legal most places, not here, but it works good.
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02/18/12, 04:42 AM
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If you have a place to put the can up above the filler why not use a simple automatic siphon hose like they sell in Lowes, Ebay, Amazon ect. I love them and use them constantly. I have yet to see a pour spout worth a nickle so why use one at all just open the can and pour into a large funnel. You need a big one preferably plastic so it will sort of jamb in place and not slide around if there is fuel in it. Also with the over the fender fillers they have today you need that funnel to be one of the angled sort so the gas won't spill out. I have had the same one I got from a speed shop 15 years ago and have poured thousands of gallons of gas through it. I jamb it into a transmission funnel to get into hard to reach places.
Save your money on those expensive and semi useless new cans and just stick with the old ones with the vents, you will appreciate it. If you do need new one for some reason the newer blue diesel cans work ok even with the very slow pouring spouts and side handle. The old red rectangular 6 gallon cans work best still and won't try to tip over and leak as easily. I rarely use the few new ones I have as the caps are a pain, they like to tip over and only hold 5 gallons.
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