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Alas, now Mountain Lions...... sigh...
In the last month, I took down an ancient hickory that was threatening to crush my house (drought killed)... icebox threatened to go on strike... washing machine flooded house, and died (two weeks later, in the triage of troubles, figured it out, after a day of labor getting access to it (used everything but the chainsaw)... a grease fire {it's like... oh well, just a fire, it'll burn itself out, hopefully, before catching the house on fire}... had friends from MT stop by for the weekend {stress stress stress}... then another tree that I realized fully completely, without hesitation, was dead, started droppin ton sized limbs on the house, and 'wrassled' with the engineering, getting supplies, etc. to get it taken down {posted on it yesterday}... Actually had some paying work... that really interfered with some 'must do right now, or you'll be sorry' projects... [the big oak I felled started dropping big waist sized limbs, that were dinging up the metal roof...]
I slept like a baby last night, knowing I didn't have a care in the world...............
Got a phone call tonite from a cousin.... Three different people saw the local mountain lion crossing the main highway three miles away, headed thissaway... I've heard of the lion being in the area, usually months later, though. One siting was less than 1/2 mile away... they've had full grown sheep get carried over 5' of net wire/barbed wire... found some remains out in the woods...
So, if you lived near me, you'd be hearing lots of random gunfire, with some big boomsticks going off occasionally. Our large livestock is in the barn, with the full grown anatolian watching over em... There are dogs in heat outside in their honeymoon accomodations, though. Few times a week I pop a 22lr round out the bedroom window, to hush things down... can almost do it in my sleep now...
I apologize for the noise.... most folks would think I'm a bad neighbor... luckily I don't have to worry about neighbors.....
I don't have any idea other than shooting like a crazed loon, to keep the big cats away. Anyone else have any experience discouraging big kitties?
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About 7 months ago my neighbor and I had a black bear come thru the pasture between our houses. He was just passin' thru, but if his rounds bring him back this route I'll direct him southeast, just add to your zoo of a life.
We've had troubles with mountain lion here too, but not recently. Lately its just been wild hogs tearing up everything.
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Originally Posted by texican
I apologize for the noise.... most folks would think I'm a bad neighbor... luckily I don't have to worry about neighbors.....
I don't have any idea other than shooting like a crazed loon, to keep the big cats away. Anyone else have any experience discouraging big kitties?
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Propane fired air cannons on timers. Of course your livestock won't like that either, but the cannons are handy when you're too busy or you can't be around to make other kinds of noise yourself.
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Im sure the NPS would tell you to just donate the stock ....its the PC thing to do.
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Well lets see:
Pick a good shooting spot from your house window. In the target area in the yard leave a chicken in a cage with a baby monitor overnight. Cat shows up drop'em. Skin the cat and tan the hide. Put the cat on ice for 24hrs. in the newly repaired ice box (mite make it feel useful and happy). Use the hickory wood to slow roast the cat.
Wash your butchering clothes in the newly repaired washer.
Roast up some root crops on the stove (at BBQ time).
Cut the oak tree into yard stools for the BBQ.
Call your friends from MT and tell them they missed one heck of a BBQ.
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02/05/12, 07:46 AM
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Only advice I have is make sure you keep the scope dust free. Dusty scope during the daylight isn't that big of a deal but during low light conditions (or artificial light) it can mean the difference between a hit or a miss.
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02/05/12, 08:20 AM
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Well just remember the old saying Texican, "Someone told me to cheer up, it could be worse. So I cheered up and sure enough it got worse."
CHEER UP TEXICAN
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02/05/12, 08:40 AM
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Tex:
Run this experiment daily. The stock will grow used to it, but the Lion should disappear.
http://m.wimp.com/destroymachine/
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02/05/12, 09:27 AM
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If it is a black panther be sure to keep it. There is a reward in Ms. of $10,000 for anyone who can show proof there is such a thing as a black panther.
Maybe you will get lucky and get a reward for protecting your livestock.
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02/05/12, 11:54 AM
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There are mountain lions all over the place in Wyoming where I work in the summers. They don't generally bother the livestock. Or people. Or anything else.
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02/05/12, 11:55 AM
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The range is 100 miles for a Mountain Lion. Also be sure you carry a gun of some kind with you at all times. It may frighten it off. If not then kill it before he decides that you are dinner. Its not just the live stock that needs to be worried.
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DH saw one up in Votaw, at their deer lease. He thought it was not quite full grown, so I guess that meant there were parent mountain lions around. I saw one 4 years ago this coming Easter, on the bank of a nearby river, as we were driving home up I59. Plain as day. Brother saw one dead on the beltway near Hwy. 90 two years ago, drove on a few miles and decided to turn and go back but someone had already picked it up--only a bloodly spot on the road left. Signs up at the deer lease stating 10,000 fine for shooting a black bear or mountain lion in that county.
I have no clue what to suggest except some motion sensor lights. I'd imagine if one came near your dogs would let you know quite loudly.
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02/05/12, 04:19 PM
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Im sure the NPS would tell you to just donate the stock ....its the PC thing to do.
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Nearest N. Park is 600 miles away (that has a known population... Big Bend NP)... Big Thicket N. Preserve? way too many rednecks about for any population to grow. If I did live on the boundary of Big Bend, I'd expect to deal with the wildlife that I moved there for (same for grizzlies... move to Yellowstone, I'd expect to have issues). Alas, I'm not near an NPS unit.
I hold very few PC views... Notice: I did not say I held NO PC views... 
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The range is 100 miles for a Mountain Lion. Also be sure you carry a gun of some kind with you at all times. It may frighten it off. If not then kill it before he decides that you are dinner. Its not just the live stock that needs to be worried.
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I was thinking the range was at least a 100 square miles, which really isn't that large (ten miles by ten miles).... so, sitting out 'bait' hoping to stake it out, waiting for a lion to show up??? you could be there for years.
As far as going armed? for protection??? I live in a redneck paradise... every ---------- about travels armed, and in deer season (close to three months long, in it's different varieties), pretty much every square foot of countryside is staked out by hunters. I'm continually amazed that they can survive, at all, here. Figure they must be 100% nocturnal, and very skiddish around humans. To 'not be' (shy/wary) is literally 'to not be', as in dead. I wouldn't shoot to kill, if I saw one, unless it was about to pounce... I would however, educate it greatly that this area isn't very lion friendly.
As a rule, I'm very friendly (but will educate) the local mega carnivores... micro carnivores? coons, possums??? They only get one lesson. No second lessons....
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I don't know about Texar but here in Missouri if you shoot one you have to call the game warrden and turn it over to them!
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02/05/12, 04:29 PM
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Nearest N. Park is 600 miles away (that has a known population... Big Bend NP)... Big Thicket N. Preserve? way too many rednecks about for any population to grow. If I did live on the boundary of Big Bend, I'd expect to deal with the wildlife that I moved there for (same for grizzlies... move to Yellowstone, I'd expect to have issues). Alas, I'm not near an NPS unit.
I hold very few PC views... Notice: I did not say I held NO PC views...
I was thinking the range was at least a 100 square miles, which really isn't that large (ten miles by ten miles).... so, sitting out 'bait' hoping to stake it out, waiting for a lion to show up??? you could be there for years.
As far as going armed? for protection??? I live in a redneck paradise... every ---------- about travels armed, and in deer season (close to three months long, in it's different varieties), pretty much every square foot of countryside is staked out by hunters. I'm continually amazed that they can survive, at all, here. Figure they must be 100% nocturnal, and very skiddish around humans. To 'not be' (shy/wary) is literally 'to not be', as in dead. I wouldn't shoot to kill, if I saw one, unless it was about to pounce... I would however, educate it greatly that this area isn't very lion friendly.
As a rule, I'm very friendly (but will educate) the local mega carnivores... micro carnivores? coons, possums??? They only get one lesson. No second lessons.... |
We had one that was dropped off at a lion farm because they said they could not feed it. It was not afraid of humans and killed a woman. That is why I said if it is not afraid of humans kill it. I was called to the residents and I found the tracks. That was after the sheriff got through with their investigation. That was the first time that they knew for sure what happened. I would not want anybody else to go through this.
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We had a mountain lion hanging around when we lived up in Northern Idaho. When we saw him during the day he was smart enough never to get in an area where we could get a clear shot at him.
We put our miniature goats in the barn at night, but left a radio on full time in the barn and had a couple strands of hot wire around their six foot tall fence panels. Also had hot wire around our chicken pen. Never lost anything, but we did worry a lot.
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We had one that was dropped off at a lion farm because they said they could not feed it. It was not afraid of humans and killed a woman. That is why I said if it is not afraid of humans kill it. I was called to the residents and I found the tracks. That was after the sheriff got through with their investigation. That was the first time that they knew for sure what happened. I would not want anybody else to go through this.
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Another rule of mine.... I generally don't tolerate anything in my Kingdom, that isn't afraid of me!
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There are mountain lions all over the place in Wyoming where I work in the summers. They don't generally bother the livestock. Or people. Or anything else.
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Very true. They just caught a mother and three kits in Jackson so that they could move her. They were living on the edge of town. Another is killing deer just a few miles down the highway from us in a residential area. One is seen quite often at our bridge ( 1/4 mile from us). So far they have not bothered our horses. We have more trouble with bobcats then the mountain lions.
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a pack of very large doggies?
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