Another corn question

[FarmboyBill]

Im wondering IF, Givin a piece of ground, and it, with hybred seed corn produced, at 30 000 an acre, say 80bu an acre, and if planted with OP corn at 26 000, it produced 80 bu an acre
COULD IT BE, that the condition and make up of the ground might be a cause for the grounds ability to sustain heavy plantings and might curtail the normal amount of bu.s one might reasonably expect to achieve with hyb corn?

Where, with OP corn at lesser plantings the ground might make up the difference in volumn with quanity of bu.s.?

Now, that being said, I would suppose one could plant hybred corn at 26, and expect the same or some better yield than OP.

EXCEPT

That if one saves his seed year after year with OP corn , Their corn will become acclimated to the region planted, which should increase its bu.s somewhat, whereas, one has to buy hybred seed year after year, from a seller perhaps hundreds of miles away and maybe 3 planting/freeze zones away. Its always not going to do its best in a entirely different planting zone.

Whatcher thoughts?

[uncle Will in In.]

Gotta go along with you Bill. However <> If you could haul water fast enough, that hybred seed could make you 180 bushel per acre on fair to middlin ground. You think the OP would match the yield if you pray for rain?

[FarmboyBill]

No way a knowin. I cant haul water that fast, And my prayers dont get answered so good lol

[Old Vet]

How many acres are you talking about. In small acres you can not get that good of crop in 80 to 100 acres you can. If you are planting a narrow strip and ends you may get only half of the bushels because the outside rows will not get enough pollen to make full ears. How are you going to fertilize it and how are you going to irrigate it? The amount of crop is on good ground with lots of fertilize and plenty of water.

[FarmboyBill]

In my case around 6. The corn field is retanguilar with rows running N & S, if u think that makes a difference.

OV U saaying that you can get 80bu acre in small 10 acre fields.? My dad told me, his renter told him on his HILLY 50 he got 116bu acre. Hybred.

Myself, Ill be putting fertilizer down at time of planting 4in deeper, and 4in away

[rambler]

You got some good points there Bill.

Hybred corn gets bred to yield high, to dry down nicely in fall.

If you are shooting for 80 bu corn, well then an open polinated might work well for you.

Is water the limiting factor for you to grow good corn?

--->Paul

[FrogTacos]

Originally Posted by FarmBoyBill

That if one saves his seed year after year with OP corn , Their corn will become acclimated to the region planted, which should increase its bu.s somewhat, whereas, one has to buy hybred seed year after year, from a seller perhaps hundreds of miles away and maybe 3 planting/freeze zones away. Its always not going to do its best in a entirely different planting zone.

Whatcher thoughts?

The main problem you might have with OP corn is what your neighbors are planting. If you don't have a clean 2 mile radius you do stand to have some cross pollination going on. The closer someone elses corn is, the more likely it is to happen - your seed purity goes right out the window.

[Windy in Kansas]

FBB if I recall correctly---and it is the same there as here, the Farm Services Agency or Soil Conservation Agency has done soil sampling and has rated field for crop potential. What yield potential did they assign to your six acres?

I expect you get more rainfall than we do here but is it enough during average rainfall years to produce an 80 bu per acre crop or greater? Is it timely or do you get a large amount with a long period until the next?

It is a real shame that no-till cropping implements are horsepower hungry and that input costs for no-til are cash hungry as no-til cropping can certainly conserve what precious moisture falls.

[FarmboyBill]

Rambler, The limiting factors is the sandy highly porus? ground, AND the lack of rain in amounts needful to grow high yield thich population plants. The soil cant retain what moisture it gets, and so it can support high populations of plants on a givin acre.

Frog, Theres only one guy farming around a 20mile radius of me and hes 12 miles away

Windy. I rather imagine you get as much, and maybe a tad more rain than I do. I notice that alot of weather systems lift over most of okla and hit Kansas square. Most systems dont dip this low.
And thinking about your statement about No till and heavy equipment. One might say with my plowing and discing, im wasteing fuel compared to the fuel used for no till. I doubt it. Im wasteing time, and so far, thats still free to me. lol

[unregistered168043]

Originally Posted by FrogTacos

If you don't have a clean 2 mile radius you do stand to have some cross pollination going on. - your seed purity goes right out the window.

Not entirely true. It depends on whats between those fields. I've got neighbors growing corn less than a 1/4 mile from here and never had any problems with cross-pollination. Of course, there is a good deal of woods and hills between us.

[FrogTacos]

Originally Posted by Darntootin

Not entirely true. It depends on whats between those fields. I've got neighbors growing corn less than a 1/4 mile from here and never had any problems with cross-pollination. Of course, there is a good deal of woods and hills between us.

Tis why I said you stand to have some cross-pollination, not that you WILL have it.