 |
|

10/23/11, 07:35 PM
|
|
Living the dream.
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Morganton, NC
Posts: 1,982
|
|
|
.22 slaughter failure...
Couldn't believe it, I had a young 60 lb male goat I slaughted this afternoon and the .22 just skipped off his skull despite shooting him perfectly in the X between his eyes and ears. Finished him off with the sticking knife, but I was very disappointed with the whole affair, any ideas?
Last edited by Silvercreek Farmer; 10/23/11 at 07:40 PM.
|

10/23/11, 07:39 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 17,225
|
|
|
On sheep and goats I slit the throat. Quick and easy.
__________________
Flaming Xtian
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mahatma Gandhi
Libertarindependent
|

10/23/11, 07:39 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 100
|
|
|
.22 cal. short? Long? Long rifle? Magnum? 223? The low velocity .22 cal. rounds are for plinking only and don't pack much of a punch. A 223 would have taken part of the head off.
|

10/23/11, 07:41 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: northcentral MN
Posts: 14,380
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinknal
On sheep and goats I slit the throat. Quick and easy.
|
Do you mean the artery and not the wind pipe?
__________________
"Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" Hobbs
"I'm not sure that man needs the help." Calvin
|

10/23/11, 07:41 PM
|
|
Living the dream.
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Morganton, NC
Posts: 1,982
|
|
|
.22 LR Standard Velocity, I have used the same box of ammo on several hogs/sheep/goats, dropped them all like a rock.
|

10/23/11, 07:50 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,378
|
|
|
The best place to shoot is from behind at the brain stem. If slitting, hard & deep from ear to ear severing jugular & windpipe in one fell swoop. The head should barely be attached. You'll have a nice bleed out.
__________________
Bob and Nancy Dickey
Laughing Stock Boer Goats
"Seriously Great Bloodlines"
and the meat goes on....
Near Seattle
|

10/23/11, 08:00 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 34,227
|
|
What Goat Servant said.
The BACK of the head is the proper place
This site has animated versions of the proper bullet trajectories:
http://www.vdpam.iastate.edu/HumaneEuthanasia/anat.htm
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
|

10/23/11, 08:05 PM
|
|
Living the dream.
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Morganton, NC
Posts: 1,982
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm
|
Thank you for the site, apparently for almost every animal except a polled goat/sheep the ear/eye X is perfect. Next time I'll get it right...
|

10/23/11, 08:13 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 17,225
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishhead
Do you mean the artery and not the wind pipe?
|
Both. Using a sharp pointed knife, like a boning knife I straddle the animal, lift it's chin so the nose is pointed up, plunge the knife through the neck right next to the spine, and cut outward.
__________________
Flaming Xtian
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mahatma Gandhi
Libertarindependent
|

10/23/11, 08:42 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 6,090
|
|
|
Exactly as stated before, behind the head (where the "dent" is behind the ears). They go down instantly with no sign of suffering. (I use a .22 mag)
|

10/23/11, 09:49 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: N AL
Posts: 2,232
|
|
Goats and sheep are meant to head butt hard, so their skulls are thicker. That's why it's better to shoot from behind. They drop like a rock every time for me. Sorry you had a bad time  It should go well from now on, though.
|

10/23/11, 09:52 PM
|
 |
More dharma, less drama.
|
|
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Texas Coastal Bend/S. Missouri
Posts: 30,490
|
|
Goat board butchering instructions with pictures:
Reposting Home Butchering Article + new Photos
__________________
Alice
* * *
"No great thing is created suddenly." ~Epictitus
|

10/24/11, 12:20 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: U. S. A.
Posts: 205
|
|
|
Think about the angle. You want to be sure that you are 90* from where you want the projectile to enter, both top and bottom and side to side. The X method will work for any species that need slaughtering. The brain stem method is more difficult and a smaller target area, for the not as experienced. I have been in on the slaughter of thousands of animals. The stem method IME has the most probability for complications and problems for those not familiar with this method. The angle as said above is the biggest factor of the X method make sure you have that correct and you will have no problems except for your killing equipment malfunctions.
Biggest thing is stay calm and don't get in a rush.
Owl
|

10/24/11, 02:45 PM
|
 |
If I need a Shelter
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ozarks
Posts: 17,695
|
|
|
Know a Guy that got shot in the Head with .38 didn't kill him.I've brought down Bulls with .22LR.
big rockpile
__________________
I love being married.Its so great to find that one person you want to annoy for the rest of your life.
If I need a Shelter
If I need a Friend
I go to the Rock!
|

10/24/11, 02:54 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 220
|
|
|
Oop's
When butchering sheep and goats here on the homestead, I just use a knife make one cut from under the jaw just in front of the ear all the way across, making sure to cut the juggler veins on either side. Job done! Sorry for duplicate answers. The only time a shot is fired is when I do hogs and beef.
|

10/24/11, 05:45 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: lat 38° 23' 25" lon -84° 17' 38"
Posts: 3,051
|
|
|
.22 is what I use here---hog, goat, and trapped coons (.45 for the steers). I've not had a fail yet, maybe my luck. I don't look to my shot as a killing shot, just a stun before I use my knife. I am trying to decide if I want to switch over to a hammer/knife combination.
__________________
"Only the rocks [and really embarassing moments] live forever"
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands..." tick-tick-tick
|

10/24/11, 08:29 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: nebraska
Posts: 1,586
|
|
|
I would make sure those shells are not hollow point. Most of the 22 ammo I see is.
|

10/24/11, 08:36 PM
|
 |
Retired Coastie
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Monterey, Tennessee
Posts: 4,660
|
|
|
Wrong location, FYI
__________________
TOPSIDE FARMS
|

10/24/11, 08:39 PM
|
 |
Retired Coastie
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Monterey, Tennessee
Posts: 4,660
|
|
|
Dropped dozens of goats with .22....On the ground instantly, then slit throat to bleed out....Sorry about the experience, the front portion of the skull is concrete thick...
__________________
TOPSIDE FARMS
|

10/24/11, 09:47 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montana
Posts: 439
|
|
|
Distance is an issue in that the bullet should hit the skull squarely. If it enters at an angle it will curl around. A hammer blow to the head delivered from the back will put them down and allow you to cut their throat with out them struggling.
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Rate This Thread |
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:03 AM.
|
|