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Old 10/20/11, 09:27 AM
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Question BT Monsanto vs. Organic non GMO

Here's a picture of 3 ears of the Monsanto BT, commercially raised, sprayed, fertilized corn versus Organic, non GMO. Can anyone see or tell the difference? I will post my answer at the end of today as to which is which. I will enjoy reading each of your responses.

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Old 10/20/11, 10:04 AM
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The one on the left has more kernels, the one on the right looks juiciest. That said, why is the ones on the right glowing? I grow organic every year and my corn looks like the stuff on the left.
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This is not sweet corn, Right. Are they the same variety? Not knowing what the variety is and what it was altered to do who knows. If it was to keep a "bug" out I would have to say the left has less damage. If GMO was used to alter the ripening date, the one on the left also. I don't like the use of it.... BUT if it wasn't used in the "real world" a lot of people would go hungry. On a small scale I wouldn't and don't use it. I would never use roundup ready, just me. Will there be super weeds???????? Super bugs??????? I try to keep varieties that have always done well in my area and are proven performers here. I have used new hybrids to get better results instead of having to use chemicals to get a crop. I don't buy from catalogs, close or the other side of the country. I am pretty isolated from troubles and I can get away with it....James
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Old 10/20/11, 10:15 AM
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What is the yield per acre for each example?

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Two different things....James

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Old 10/20/11, 10:32 AM
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My best guess is the one on the left is the monsanto version.
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Old 10/20/11, 10:41 AM
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Old 10/20/11, 11:06 AM
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The one on the left with without question the Monstanto BT corn.

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I would say the one on the right is the Monsanto corn.
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I would say the one on the right is the Monsanto corn.
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Old 10/20/11, 11:39 AM
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I'm guessing the one on the left is the monsanto corn.
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Why?....James
I am certainly no expert but the color and uniformity arent what I see in my various organic corn patches. I am really just guessing as its hard to tell from such a small sample and I am not really sure you could actually tell from pictures like this. It will be interesting to see what the OP says at the end of the day.
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I don't know that you can tell so much by looking. The deep dents and the color can be how the weather went, the soil it was grown in, and the moisture percentage at harvest.

I gleaned a few ears off the neighbor's field for decorations. There are five GMO ears sitting on a 100 year old corn dryer hanging in my kitchen. Two ears look like the ones on the left, two look like the ones on the right, and one looks like a cross of the two.

To me the most dangerous aspect is one cannot tell by visual inspection, so you have no idea what you're really getting. You have to depend on the integrity of the farmer.
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I would say the corn on the left is the monsanto corn.The tips of the ears on the corn to the right shows some insect or disease pressure.The tips could be this way on monsanto corn if the field fertility was low also.All things equal I would say the ears to the left are monsanto.
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Old 10/20/11, 02:48 PM
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Well the planting date is differant, the organic was planted two weeks later, and the soil is very close to the same, as I picked the corn out of the neighbors field next to me. The fields have not been harvested yet, so no yield results yet. That realy doesn`t matter in this case anyway. And no you can`t tell from just looking at it if it is good or bad, right or wrong, organic or not. That was part of my point, you can`t tell by looking at it. I will tell you which is which later tonight. Keep up the comments, I am learning alot. > Thanks Marc
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The ones on the left are more uniform and also bigger overall, looks like more kernels per ear. The one ear on the far right has bug or maybe fungal damage at the tip. So, it seems logical that the ones on the left are the Monsanto ears. But I won't be a bit surprised if it's a setup!
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Old 10/20/11, 05:19 PM
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The difference is one will give you cancer in 20 years, the other is natural and contains no chemicals.
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The difference is one will give you cancer in 20 years, the other is natural and contains no chemicals.
There are no "chemicals" in BT corn.

It's a harmless bacteria (Unless you're a worm)
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The ones on the left are more uniform and also bigger overall, looks like more kernels per ear. The one ear on the far right has bug or maybe fungal damage at the tip. So, it seems logical that the ones on the left are the Monsanto ears. But I won't be a bit surprised if it's a setup!
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Old 10/20/11, 05:30 PM
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There are no "chemicals" in BT corn.

It's a harmless bacteria (Unless you're a worm)
I agree if thats all they're using. If they are 'no till' operations then the roundup and other chemicals are saturated into the soil before planting. I use BT and it is considered organic...but thats not all thats being sprayed in most nonorganic operations, not to mention chemical fertilizers and etc..


Those things are not visible on the corn. I get a kick out of people who say they can't see a difference or even taste a difference. You cannot SEE the effect of chemicals sprayed on the corn throughout it's growth cycle. You may or may not taste any difference. Thats really irrelevant. Chemicals in pesticides and other non-organic additives are proven to be linked to many cancers, thats a matter of record and not debatable. If given the choice I would prefer organically grown produce, not because it looks better or tastes different ( though for many products the difference is plain ) I prefer them for health reasons.

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