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Old 10/01/11, 12:43 AM
 
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Tell me about the well in these pictures please..

This is the well at the house we are hoping to buy. I have zero experience with wells, but it looks like it needs replacing. could you all tell me what you think?
Tell me about the well in these pictures please.. - Homesteading Questions
Tell me about the well in these pictures please.. - Homesteading Questions
Tell me about the well in these pictures please.. - Homesteading Questions
Tell me about the well in these pictures please.. - Homesteading Questions
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Old 10/01/11, 12:50 AM
 
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Oh and what is the tarp covered tank looking thing?
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Old 10/01/11, 01:12 AM
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Pressure tank
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Old 10/01/11, 01:18 AM
 
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Get someone local to look at it. I'm no expert, but it looks no worse than some we've had that lasted years. Guess the main question is whether it works? If it does, get it sheltered better
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Old 10/01/11, 01:28 AM
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Wow, the pressure tank out in the open like that?
the well itself might be fine, but thats a really odd setup having the tank out in the middle of the lawn , and Ive never seen that kind of pump.
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Old 10/01/11, 01:43 AM
 
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It is a submersible pump. Had one like that when I bought our place that looked the same in 2000 and it works today. Get a new pressure control and a new thing in the green box (can't remember the name) for extras( about $50) so that you can fix it when it goes out on a weekend. Pour a concrete slab and build a good insulated cover for it and you will be good to go in most cases.
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Old 10/01/11, 03:24 AM
 
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If it works, why replace it?

You must be _way_ south to have exposed pipe and the pressure tank on the surface like that.

I'd want the wires installed properly, they should be in conduit all the way, not sticking out those few inches here & there.

Would be nice if all tht stuff were in a little hut to keep it from being an eyedore, and protect it from the elements.

I see the pressure gauge says zero - is it turned off, or does the well not work, or as is typical, does the old gauge not work and the gauge & probably the skiny pipe it's on needs to be replaced?

The pressure switch (grey plastic small box with wires into it) looks very old, likely want a new one on hand as they fail sooner or later, fairly cheap item. Just a couple springs and contact points.

The bigger metal box is the controller, little paint might help it, the internals send power down to the pump.

The pressure tank (under the blue crap) should be about 1/2 full f wter & 1/2 air. Some have a rubber bladder in them to keep the air seperate, some just allow the water on the bottom, air on top and slowly air will disolve into the water, needs more air added every few months. If short on air or the rubber bladder is busted, the pump will start & stop often, which is bad for the pump.

Your pump is down the hole, at the bottom of the pipe going down. It would be real handy (for future repairs) to find out how deep down that is. Previous owner, well digger company, or county records might know that info.

If it works, could use a little referbishing is all, not total replacement. By the looks of it, might want to set aside money for replacing some of it, time has been hard on it. Portions of it have a bit of insulation, other portions don't - how cold doe sit get where this is, how abot your location?

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Old 10/01/11, 06:08 AM
 
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Build a well-house.
Leave room for a BIG man to get all around things inside it.
Lay a (small) concrete slab, leaving clearance around the well.
Use some bricks - maybe double-brick as a footing.
Use some cinder-blocks.
Choose your style of roof - overkill for this job, but you are using the building as an exercise. Make sure you can remove and replace the roof easily, in case (or for when) you need to pull the pipe in the well.
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Old 10/01/11, 07:07 AM
 
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Galvanized pipe with a well will rust out and leak.Replace galvanized with brass or plastic when the galvanized pipe get real rusty.I would have the local well man take a look.He may be familiar with this well and give you a lot of information.
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Old 10/01/11, 07:30 AM
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Yup, mine in Texas is out in the elements like that. I don't even have the pressure tanks insulated. We throw a tarp on it if the temp is supposed to get below 28 degrees. Rarely.
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Old 10/01/11, 08:16 AM
 
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In Ohio we put the setup in the basement. If no basement then the tank gets buried and the controls in the house.
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Old 10/01/11, 09:53 AM
 
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...................The total weight of the pipe and well motor are being held up by that square steel plate that looks to be sitting on two bricks ! I'd want verification that it is fully functional before your your purchase . , fordy
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Old 10/01/11, 09:59 AM
 
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You have a submersible 3 wire pump that will be in a 4 inch or larger casing. The blue box contains the start control for the motor that drives the pump. The gray box is the Square D pressure switch that controls the on/off function of the pump and the gauge is to let you know the pressure provided by the pump and the set points for when the pump cycles controlled by the gray box. The tarp is around some type of storage tank for holding the reservoir water that is pressurized by air that is compressed by the pumped water. This pressurized air provided water delivery when only small amounts of water are used to avoid having the pump to cycle on/off too frequently. You need a well house to shelter all this from the elements to increase life of the components. The wiring and well seal will not pass code but is unfortunately rather typical for wells.

Fordy, I believe that is the well casing that the steel plate is sitting on.
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Old 10/01/11, 11:27 AM
 
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Thank you for all the help. We are way south in the desert about 3 hours from Mexico. I would sure like to avoid replacing if we can, it just looked in such bad shape that i wasn't sure it would make it. Eventually i would like to replace it with a solar pump, but I would like this one to last a few months at least.

I really want this well to be good, because its a steal on this property and its as cheap as raw land, the cost of drilling a new well alone would be 50K easy or more, so to find a property wit a well already in place is a great find.
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Old 10/01/11, 11:29 AM
 
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In Texas, we had ours on a slab and built a cedar shed over it - that was a great idea until we had to pull the submersed pump to replace it when we suffered a lightning strike that killed the pump

-make sure you build a building you can decapitate or tip over so you can pull out the pump - many many many feet of pipe will need to come out of that hole in order to pull the submersed pump to service or replace it.
I have a submersible pump also. There's a block pump house built over the pressure tank, etc. with a hole in the wall for the piping for the pump. There is an insulated 4 X 5 ft box (about 3 ft high) with tight fitting lid over the pump itself, built snug to the pump house.

From what I've seen, and after having the pump pulled, that's the best way to build a pump house.

wish I could take credit for the design.
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Old 10/01/11, 11:39 AM
 
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Thats a great idea for covering it. I was sitting here trying to think how the heck we would make a moveable housing.
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Old 10/01/11, 01:35 PM
 
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I'd get the water tested before buying. For my purposes, if land doesn't have good water, it isn't worth anything to me.
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Old 10/01/11, 01:46 PM
 
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The water in the area is from a Aquifer so I think we are good in that respect, but weplan on having it tested.
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Old 10/01/11, 01:49 PM
 
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I have a submersible pump also. There's a block pump house built over the pressure tank, etc. with a hole in the wall for the piping for the pump. There is an insulated 4 X 5 ft box (about 3 ft high) with tight fitting lid over the pump itself, built snug to the pump house.
That doesn't quite add up. If your pump is submersable, then it is at the bottom of the hole, end of the pipe. Is the insulated box built around the pressure tank, not the pump, did you mean? If your pump is on the surface, then it is a jet type pump, not a submersable.

Typically for a deep well like this, one builds a small shack around it offset a bit, and one side of the roof is removable or can flip over to the other side like a horizontal door so you can expose the sky and pull the pipes up. For major work, a truck with a mast likes to back up to the well and run a cable down the hole, so if you can make access like that with the building, great. Takes a little figuring, or else a lightweight building that can just be tipped up and back away from the well area.

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Old 10/01/11, 05:00 PM
 
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It needs a pump house.

Make your offer contingent upon a well inspection, flow test, and water quality test.

It's not a bargain if it doesn't have potable water.
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