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09/27/11, 11:48 PM
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Michigan DNR finally admits there is at least ONE
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...42/1002/NEWS01
cougar in the state.......but only in the UPPER PENINSULA,,,,see the video.
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09/27/11, 11:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've seen one way down in the thumb area. But that may have been an escaped/released pet.
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09/28/11, 01:52 AM
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We've seen them (or it) within 1/4 mile of our place, here in the central UP, over the last few years. Our neighbors have had their horses attacked by a couger - DNR blamed it on a Black bear. We have also found a partially eaten deer carcass on top of an old mobile home on our property. Just what we need in addition to the bears and wolves!
Here, kitty, kitty, kitty.....
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09/28/11, 09:43 AM
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There was a 'reason' that I purposely titled this piece as the DNR acknowledging ONE cougar in the U.P.
Despite the overwhelming evidence that they are scattered throughout the state; both upper and lower peninsula.
I've personally seen one crossing the highway late at night while driving through the Seney Wildlife Refuge over 18 yrs ago.
The hyperlink below, shows evidence that one was found in my backyard.....or nearly so. Just a couple townships away.
http://www.miwildlife.org/detail-20050907.asp
I have a neighbor lady, who I used to deliver papers to when a teen, who claims that last year she heard a commotion
on her back porch late at night and turned on the outside light to see a cougar staring into her slider; she hollered at it
and it took off across the road towards her neighbors who have horses......she lives exactly a half a mile from my place!
Last edited by copperkid3; 09/28/11 at 09:51 AM.
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09/28/11, 09:48 AM
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I've seen them around here as well. They are around, for sure.
This picture is from Leota Michigan , where "Beaver Tom" set out a motion sensor camera to see if any big bucks were passing in the area. (note: this one doesn't have a tracking collar on.)
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09/28/11, 03:24 PM
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Those male cats need alot of space. So about this time of year after his mother kicks her male yearling kittens out the resident male will run them way off, miles.
I have a friend, who's job it is to keep track these cats. They radio collar many each year.
One particular young male started just west of Salt Lake City when he was collared as a two year old. In five years. before the collar fell off. He had been to Southern British Columbia and back down to the Black Hills of South Dakota. Then followed the Niobrara river in Northern Nebraska. His collar finally fell off on the Iowa side of the Missiouri river North of Souix City.
The population here increases each year. So the young ones branch out. For a mountain lion that can mean thousands of miles.
I don't have much faith in anyone who tries to convince me that these cats aren't in most states. The big thing is that where there haven't, in the past, been any sightings, there is now a thriving population. You will probably see them expand thier ranges as deer herd numbers increase.
On the radio yesterday they told of a decrepid old male that was walking down the middle of the street, of a city, 17 miles south of downtown Salt Lake.
Cats being the opportunist that they are. Was probably looking for an easy meal of house pet. He probably had been kicked out of his territory by another that was younger and stronger so he was moving on.
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09/28/11, 06:05 PM
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DDT has been gone for many years and the "food chain" is making a nice comeback, not withstanding game protection laws.
Rabbits, owls, hawks, turkeys, vultures, deer, etc. Doing much, much better.
Only makes sense that the larger predators, will start "reappearing" also.
DNR knows they are out there. There probably is some political game, that they have to play, regarding the returned presence of these larger predators.
Just look at the wolf "issues" out west. Should I say "wolf wars".
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09/28/11, 09:47 PM
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I've read accounts on numerous sites that they are in NY state. Though the NY DNR denies it.
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09/28/11, 11:05 PM
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A lady from my church posted this as her FB status yesterday: "So they bring in coyotes to help bring down the deer population and now they bring in cougars to help bring down the coyote population. hence, there is a cougar spotted, living in our neighborhood. hmmm what a wonderful government we have.
My solution...allow more deer tags to begin with. Problem solved!"
She lives about 20 minutes from me...near Youngstown, Ohio.
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09/28/11, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazahleenah
I've seen them around here as well. They are around, for sure.
This picture is from Leota Michigan , where "Beaver Tom" set out a motion sensor camera to see if any big bucks were passing in the area. (note: this one doesn't have a tracking collar on.)
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That pic has been floating around the web for several years. If I recall correctly, it is photo chopped as well. I just cant see a cougar slipping that close to a deer without the deer realizing it. And be in the line of the cam...nope.
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09/29/11, 07:10 AM
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I was a logger in the UP and N.wisconson in the 70s and early 80s they were there then along with wolfs and bears!
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09/30/11, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven12
I've read accounts on numerous sites that they are in NY state. Though the NY DNR denies it.
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If there are numerous sightings... they ARE there.
The DNR lies.... trust me.
I had multiple sightings MYSELF... and they told me I did not see what I knew I had..... in short... they lie.
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09/30/11, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by General Brown
That pic has been floating around the web for several years. If I recall correctly, it is photo chopped as well. I just cant see a cougar slipping that close to a deer without the deer realizing it. And be in the line of the cam...nope.
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As soon as I can figure ow to get real physical photos on the puter... I'll post some that were taken close to where I live.
(and yes, I have seen big cats stalk "that" close to prey. They make their footfalls match the footfalls of the prey...)
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09/30/11, 09:56 AM
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The state plays the same game here in PA, people see the cats fairly often but the state maintains they don't exists. My favorite event was a hunter who killed one about 20 miles from here. The picture was in the paper, the state sent out someone to inspect the "nonexistant" cat and he was quoted in the paper as saying "there are no mountain lions in the state of PA but if you see one don't shoot it". My tax dollars at work.
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09/30/11, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven12
I've read accounts on numerous sites that they are in NY state. Though the NY DNR denies it.
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My mother and her boyfriend saw one earlier this year. I've heard one a couple of times near her house. She lives south of Buffalo, near the PA line.
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09/30/11, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvaticus
My mother and her boyfriend saw one earlier this year. I've heard one a couple of times near her house. She lives south of Buffalo, near the PA line.
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The wildlife in the PA Wilds region is on a big upswing and the population is on the decline so I wouldn't be surprised if a cat found those forests appealing.
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