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09/19/11, 12:45 PM
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Benefits of Raw Milk
Can you imagine the FDA and the USDA allowing such a study to even be done here in the USA????
There is an article in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology that
reports the results of a study done in Europe which involved over 8,000
children. This sudy showed that children who drank raw milk had a 41% lower
incidence of asthma and hay fever. I will try to paste in part of the summary
and a link to the abstract.
Results
Reported raw milk consumption was inversely associated to asthma (adjusted odds
ratio [aOR], 0.59; 95% CI, 0.46-0.74), atopy (aOR, 0.74; 95% CI, 0.61-0.90), and
hay fever (aOR, 0.51; 95% CI, 0.37-0.69) independent of other farm exposures.
Boiled farm milk did not show a protective effect. Total viable bacterial counts
and total fat content of milk were not significantly related to asthma or atopy.
Increased levels of the whey proteins BSA (aOR for highest vs lowest levels and
asthma, 0.53; 95% CI, 0.30-0.97), á-lactalbumin (aOR for interquartile range and
asthma, 0.71; 95% CI, 0.52-0.97), and â-lactoglobulin (aOR for interquartile
range and asthma, 0.62; 95% CI, 0.39-0.97), however, were inversely associated
with asthma but not with atopy.
http://www.jacionline.org/article/ab...&terms3=&term\
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09/19/11, 12:50 PM
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To answer your question.. No, I cannot.
Also, if there was one, I cannot imagine them publishing the truth here
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09/19/11, 01:54 PM
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Reported raw milk consumption was inversely associated to asthma (adjusted odds
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Do you think it's actually the raw milk or is it the combined effects of the fact that most raw milk drinkers tend to eat more vegetables, homegrown, etc.?
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09/19/11, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Heritagefarm
Do you think it's actually the raw milk or is it the combined effects of the fact that most raw milk drinkers tend to eat more vegetables, homegrown, etc.?
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The study claimed that they "controlled" for other factors (but it was only the abstract. so I don't kinow how they did that)........and if I understood it corectly, it correlated with immunoglobins (correct terminology?) levels.....and those immunoglobins are destroyed by pasteurization.
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09/19/11, 02:15 PM
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I don't think it is just raw milk but also the lack of other chemicals that are in the industrialised milk sold in this country. Raw milk is just that, good wholesome milk the way God intended it to be. I was given raw goats milk right after birth and still drink raw goats milk because of not having a stomach. Daughter was given pastuized cows milk, but son, because of many allergies, went from breast milk to goats milk. Daughter has many allergies and Son, although worse in the beginning, has fewer allergies than Daughter....James
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09/19/11, 07:17 PM
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Do you think it's actually the raw milk or is it the combined effects of the fact that most raw milk drinkers tend to eat more vegetables, homegrown, etc.?
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Laboratory tests show that the enzymes in fresh milk destroy certain germs, and certain germs in fresh milk destroy other germs. It's not just coincidence.
When you pasturize milk you destroy specific pathogens, such as TB, and the enzymes. This allows other pathogens, ones that need a higher temp or longer duration, to flourish. One of these is the ascaris parasite. Ascaris is associated with asthma. For asthmatics drinking commercial pasturized milk should recook the milk to kill off the ascaris.
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09/19/11, 07:57 PM
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You mean would they actually 1) do a similar study, 2) publish the truth, here in the U.S. with our huge dairy lobby?!
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09/20/11, 03:20 PM
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They won't even acknowledge that Holstein milk causes more health problems, and has minimal nutritional value compared to most other breeds.
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09/22/11, 04:42 PM
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Holsteins produce more milk than any other breed of cow. Unfortunately, they don't produce more milk solids or fat, the extra milk is really just extra water.
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09/22/11, 09:47 PM
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09/23/11, 07:56 AM
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I can't get raw milk (and don't have a cow). I can get low temp pasteurized non-homogenized though. Is that almost as good?
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09/23/11, 08:33 AM
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I can't get raw milk (and don't have a cow). I can get low temp pasteurized non-homogenized though. Is that almost as good?
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about as good as your going to get probly, > Thanks Marc
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09/23/11, 09:34 AM
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I drink raw Jersey milk, butter and cream from the same....I like it better than store bought and all of it has a natural taste to it, I think it should be consumed in it's natural state and not altered......and the cats have a very high opinion also, they somehow know when it is time to seperate the cream from the milk......
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09/23/11, 12:35 PM
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I honestly can't believe there needed to be research on this.
Raw milk is a live substance. This is why they pasteurize afterall. To kill the "live" part of it.
However, because it's live, that means it also has GOOD flora and fauna in there. That's the purpose of milk!
Mammalian milk serves two functions: It's nutrition for growing offspring, but it's also the offspring's first set of inoculations. And it continues to "inoculate" every time they get a new "dose."
It's the same reason breastfed babies are healthier than formula fed. And why breastfed babies who nurse into toddlerhood and even the preschool years do even better still.
I can't believe there's an argument about this. It's just plain logic.
However, unfortunately, that really has nothing to do with the regulation of raw milk...
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09/23/11, 02:14 PM
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09/23/11, 11:00 PM
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I've been milking a Jersey cow now for 4 years. I make yogurt and butter from it as well as drinking it. I don't know how people can touch the store bought stuff they call milk as there is no comparison in my opinion. My kids just hate it when the time comes to dry her up.
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"Dang" those evil milk producing cartels... the moo mafia... Publish some pablum dissing our 'product', and you'll sleep in the sewage lagoon...
Anyone have any idea what the shelf life of raw milk is? About three days here, kept cold, and it starts getting into 'alternative lifestyles'... sorry, I'm genetically and culturally disposed to not drinking soured milk. Seriously, does anyone not milking daily, have problems with the stuff going bad before you can use it up? Not even mentioning the separation of cream and non cream. I'd drink just the cream if I could {back in HS, when I worked at a dairy, I'd sometimes 'cheat' and get a whole gallon of cream, instead of turning on the paddles to stir it up first}
We lost our best girl, and an ok doe, last week, in a tragic feed room fiasco (I was under the influence of painkillers having underwent skin cancer surgery the evening before), and apparently left the door open. Soooo, our only milker is a first time Nigerian, who barely makes a pint. We're having to [shudder] buy moo mafia milk till we can get the two bottle babies weaned, or does get fresh again, hopefully in November.
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09/24/11, 06:33 AM
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I wondered that myself awhile back and did an experiment of sorts. I took a half gallon and everyday would shake it and and then would pour a small amount to taste and it lasted 13 days before it turned sour on me.
Has anyone else tried something similar?
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09/24/11, 11:21 AM
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Last night I finished a half gallon of raw jersey milk that had been milked on 09/11. It was not sour at all. (I really need to catch up on my cheese making obviously!)
If I get really behind and some goes sour, I use it for baking - there is a big difference between sour milk and bad milk. Buy a half gallon of store milk and let it go bad then smell that compared to soured raw milk. Gag!
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09/24/11, 02:25 PM
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Raw milk doesn't go sour. It separates and turns to cheese. We were getting two gallons of raw milk a week and not drinking enough of it. We'd sometimes open the second gallon when it was over a week old. Still edible, not sour. Made cheese 'cause we had another two gallons of fresh. Now we get one gallon per week.
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