Buzz Saw blade sharpening setup

FarmboyBill · #1 09/06/11, 12:08 PM

Anybody know where I can find a setup to sharpen my buzz saw? Ive had this saw since 68, and carried wood away from it while dad and grandad cut with it useing a early 40s model A or B JD before I went to grade school in the mid 50s, Ive cut with it since 68 every year nearly. Ive never been able to sharpen it myself. Because I dont have an off bearer, by the time im done for the season the teeth are in a straight line with no swedge left in them. At 64, I cant tell which tooth should aim where, and I cant see the set in the tooth. I dont know , for instance, if its sharpened ont the R side of the tooth, say, for example, whether that tooth should be swedged to the R or to the L.

taylorlambert · #2 09/06/11, 08:44 PM

Bill I saw a circular saw grinder in the scrapyard one time but they wouldnt sell it. Try a sharpening company, Theres one not too far from here that will retooth one sharpen, and polish and true the blade for a dollar a tooth. Im about to sent one to get new carbides on it this week.

FarmboyBill · #3 09/06/11, 08:50 PM

Right. I paid $100 to get it done last year,

jwal10 · #4 09/06/11, 08:52 PM

I just use a cresent wrench. Clamp a small piece of wood onto your table just so it touches the saw tooth you set then turn the blade backwards and set every other tooth, then reset your piece of wood for the other side. 1/16th of an inch is enough for crosscut blade, that makes it 1/8th inch total. No more than 1/2 the blade thickness. Leading edge (point) of tooth to outside of blade ie: tooth point to left, set to left. Point to right, set tooth to the right ....James

farminghandyman · #5 09/08/11, 01:56 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOLEY-BELSAW...item336b845eba

FarmboyBill · #6 09/08/11, 02:49 PM

FHM What the heck is it, and how do u use it??

jwal. What is the wood for? Are you saying, If bevel os on R side of tooth, itsd bent to the right? Same for left? What do I do if, as I say, The teeth are dull and have no bevel that I can see, but are flat?

jwal10 · #7 09/08/11, 05:10 PM

The wood is just to get the set the same in each tooth. Just until it touches. Some blades are filed flat, seen them, (never done one myself). If not then the long side of the tooth point is on the left "left set tooth" and right on the "right set tooth"....James

FarmboyBill · #8 09/08/11, 06:07 PM

Im still not following ya as to the wood. Do i set it crossways in the open gap of the table up to where it touches a tooth? Do I set it longways ?

FarmboyBill · #9 09/08/11, 06:08 PM

I can see if I satr it crossways in the table and sety one tooth, and marked where it came up against the wood, then I could have a guage/mark for each/every other tooth to set it to that mark? is that anywhere like what your talkin?

FarmboyBill · #10 09/08/11, 06:10 PM

And, I assume that im right. If it sets to the right, I file on the right. Likewise the left. Guess im getting there lol

farminghandyman · #11 09/08/11, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarmBoyBill

FHM What the heck is it, and how do u use it??

it is circular saw set for a large buzz saw blade,

you adjust the center for the size of saw blade you have and then rotate the tooth to the anvil and adjust it for the amount of set one wants, and tap the punch onto the tooth and it will make a repeatable set you do ever other one and then flip the blade over and do the other teeth,

I have a little diffnret style of steel blade setter and it does a nice job of keeping things uniform, used it all the time before carbide tips,

here is another style,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOLEY-MODEL-...item5adf303821

here is a video for a buzz saw sharping job, no fancy setting tool

jwal10 · #12 09/09/11, 12:26 PM

Yes, Yes, Yes. A video is worth a million words. I looked for that second video but guess I wasn't putting in the right words. Yes Bill you have the little piece of wood figured out. I was doing this when I was 12 with the buzz saw I had on my Farmall B. I am a bit anal and have stuck with the piece of wood as it keeps all the teeth even. On my old buzz saw the piece of wood also kept the saw blade more stable as it was held up againt the side of the tooth when filing. I was too small at the time to handle the big blade safely so I did everything with the blade still on the mandrel....James

FarmboyBill · #13 09/09/11, 04:44 PM

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, the both o ya. As I ole boy said, I Seed it now. I was watching what looked like a Farmallb, tho they said it wa an A, and a 37 B JD. Neither had their belts twisted. The short belt on the farmall it didnt sweem to hurt it much, but the longer belt on the JD was a flopping some. I was always taught to twist it twice, #1 so that it wouldnt flop in a wind, #2 wo because that made the belt bend slightly down and up towards the center, That made a slightly better grip on both puleys. I also watched a saw with a L hand cut. Dont think id like that. Guess all they did was flip the mandrel.
It looked like he was sharpening it with a 1/2 round 1in or 1 1/2 file. That right. Ive got an old one, Sure can get a new one.

jwal10 · #14 09/09/11, 05:12 PM

I just used a flat file. What they call a bas*ard/double file....James

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/NIC...lat-File-6A625

FarmboyBill · #15 09/09/11, 07:08 PM

yup, thats what I always used, to sharpen mower sectiong also. I CAN do that lol

jwal10 · #16 09/09/11, 11:13 PM

One twist in belt runs the machine backwards (or the right way) 2 twists runs the machine the same as no twist. The Pto on a B is on the back and I had no twist in belt, also a short belt....James