John Deere 1050 tractor-opinions?

oz in SC V2.0 · #1 09/03/11, 11:23 PM

This tractor has been at the local Massey dealer for a while,4wd,loader(although loader is a Yanmar,but then so is the tractor really),hydraulic top link and arms.

Not sure of the hours,,started up and ran okay to me.
Did have some play in the tie rod ends(well that is what the part is called on a car).

Tires seemed okay too.

Was asking $10,000...Mrs oz asked what the best deal was and he lowered it to $8000...she is a wheeler dealer I guess....

Will deliver it to our place as well.

Wondering if we should try and get something else thrown in for that price(auger,rake,etc) or try to go lower....

But any thoughts on the actual tractor would be appreciated.

A link giving specs:
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-1050.html

**Ross** · #2 09/04/11, 08:12 AM

They are called tie rods yes. Hours matter alot so too recent work, and tires. Has it got a cab? machinerytrader.com or agdealer.com might have some others you can compare prices with. I'm inclined to think the dealer might throw in something since he dropped the price, I doubt he's done dealing at any rate.

oz in SC V2.0 · #3 09/04/11, 10:16 AM

After our last tractor and it's worn out front end,we are probably over cautious regarding such things.

I forgot to look at the hours...will look next time we go look.

We were surprised he dropped the price that much that fast,he basically told us it is $10,000,Mrs oz asked do you have any room to move on the price and he dropped it $2000...

Things ARE slow, and I guess he probably would rather sell it than have it sit there.

salmonslayer · #4 09/04/11, 10:35 AM

I like them but that seems a bit high in price to me even at 8K unless its really got low hours. I would dicker with them a bit more if it checks out and you like it and you are probably not going to have too much trouble getting them to throw in a couple used implements to sweeten the deal.

But if it has worn tie rod ends as you state its not likely to have low hours and that makes the high price stand out even more. You can get a well used but taken care of one around here for about 3500-5K.

oz in SC V2.0 · #5 09/04/11, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by salmonslayer

I like them but that seems a bit high in price to me even at 8K unless its really got low hours. I would dicker with them a bit more if it checks out and you like it and you are probably not going to have too much trouble getting them to throw in a couple used implements to sweeten the deal.

But if it has worn tie rod ends as you state its not likely to have low hours and that makes the high price stand out even more. You can get a well used but taken care of one around here for about 3500-5K.

I just looked on Tractorhouse and there are some for less,but the lower priced ones seem to be 2wd,this is 4wd.

salmonslayer · #6 09/04/11, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oz in SC V2.0

I just looked on Tractorhouse and there are some for less,but the lower priced ones seem to be 2wd,this is 4wd.

Yes that would make a difference, I was thinking yours was a 2WD. They are nice tractors either way and good luck on your purchase.

oz in SC V2.0 · #7 09/04/11, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by salmonslayer

Yes that would make a difference, I was thinking yours was a 2WD. They are nice tractors either way and good luck on your purchase.

The 2wd are cheaper for sure.

We just don't want to buy a lemon...or a bad example of a good tractor...LOL

Jolly · #8 09/04/11, 02:12 PM

They are good tractors, but there are a couple of things to watch out for:

1. If that loader has been on the tractor all its life and you can detect some play in the front end, you may want to have your tractor mechanic check it out. It can get expensive to go through the front end on a FWD tractor. The bright side is that since it's built by a major manufacturer (Yanmar) and painted J.D. green, parts will be available. Too many small FWD tractors have front end parts made of unobtainium as the years go by.

2. As I understand it, the clutch used on the 1050 was the same as used on the 950, but the 1050 has those extra turbocharged ponies. If the tractor has a lot of hours or if it was abused with that FEL, you might have some clutch wear. As with most tractors, you'll have to break it down to replace the clutch.

3. Lastly, make sure the turbo is working well, without any leaks, etc. IIRC, that's a $1000 part...

RonM · #9 09/04/11, 04:00 PM

Jolly you are correct it is a 950 with a blower.....It needs to have power steering with a loader attached.....Check Tractorhouse.com see what they are asking for that style tractor.......

oz in SC V2.0 · #10 09/04/11, 04:13 PM

http://www.tractorhouse.com/list/lis...RE&mdltxt=1050

$4950-$12,900.

Jolly · #11 09/04/11, 04:47 PM

Another note about that series...at about that time, Yanmar imported their own tractors into the states, but the John Deere branded ones were "better" tractors. At least to me.

You see, the tractors were almost identical, but J.D. specified a cast iron housing vs. cast aluminum. So when comparing similar hp tractors, the J.D. weighed about a thousand pounds more...and more weight usually equals more effective pull...

oz in SC V2.0 · #12 09/04/11, 04:58 PM

I wonder what the model number was for the Yanmar equivalent?

This JD has a Yanmar loader on it.

Tarheel · #13 09/04/11, 05:13 PM

Oz just for information,

I bought a Yanmar re manufactured 31HP PTO, 4x4 with a Brand new loader on the tractor. I have had it for about 9 months with no problems. I have put about 50 hours on the tractor.

I looked at the same JD model that you are looking at and my dealer wanted $12,000. Out of my ball park for what I wanted to do with it.

The Yanmar that I bought was priced at $9300 (I think). I had an older JD that I traded in which brought the price down.

I have been more than satisfied with my purchase so far.

taylorlambert · #14 09/04/11, 06:23 PM

I have a YM3000 Yanmar and its basically a 950 Deere. If you look under the pto shaft it says Made in Osaka Japan Courtesy Yanmar.

My Yanmar hasnt got any aluminum on it. I cant remeber if it was the 1050 or 1070 Im leaning o nthe 1070 had a tweaked motor and it had head gasket problems. Id check the front end and make sure it was full of oil. I had a friend that bought one and the drop axle was worn out and a problem cost wise. Is it a shuttle shift or sycronized or Gear shift.

oz in SC V2.0 · #15 09/04/11, 07:29 PM

Gear shift.Shifted well,at least around the yard.

Bentley · #16 09/04/11, 07:35 PM

I had a JD 850 a few years ago with very low hours. It's the little brother to the 950/1050 machines. I sold the 850 in 2008 for $5500. I turned around and bought a Kubota L3010, 4wd, and Kubota loader, with 468 hours on the clock. It's been a fantastic tractor.

My only concern with the 1050 is the turbo's. They ad a lot to performance, but if they fail, the repair costs can be staggering. If the tractor has more than 1500 hours, I would pass. The hydraulic top link is a big plus.

$8000 is probably not to bad, but he might come down more. First, I would make sure it's in good condition, esp what a previous poster mentioned about the front end.

(make sure they change the spark plugs before delivery....he he)

oz in SC V2.0 · #17 09/04/11, 07:40 PM

I am a little leery of the turbo,just don't see the need to be honest.

But it is there,so as long as it works I guess that is all that matters.

I like the idea of the hydraulic top link and arm,that would make life easy.

I do think he will move more on the price,or we thought he might throw in some sort of implement for the $8000.

elkhound · #18 09/04/11, 07:58 PM

take your time oz..its a buyers world right now and there are tons of tractor dealers between me and you.keep looking unless ya gut feeling screams "buy me".

its been awile since i dealy with tractor dealers down south of me..but there use to be plenty in winston-salem to mt.airy area.

oz in SC V2.0 · #19 09/04/11, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhound

take your time oz..its a buyers world right now and there are tons of tractor dealers between me and you.keep looking unless ya gut feeling screams "buy me".

its been awile since i dealy with tractor dealers down south of me..but there use to be plenty in winston-salem to mt.airy area.

Oh,we aren't going to hurry into anything this time...

It seems almost every possibility is about 2 hours away however...LOL.

We drove a little over an hour this past Saturday to look at a dealer up in Wilkesboro but the two he had were nothing we would want.

Jolly · #20 09/04/11, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorlambert

I have a YM3000 Yanmar and its basically a 950 Deere. If you look under the pto shaft it says Made in Osaka Japan Courtesy Yanmar.

My Yanmar hasnt got any aluminum on it. I cant remeber if it was the 1050 or 1070 Im leaning o nthe 1070 had a tweaked motor and it had head gasket problems. Id check the front end and make sure it was full of oil. I had a friend that bought one and the drop axle was worn out and a problem cost wise. Is it a shuttle shift or sycronized or Gear shift.

I was looking at a YM220 and a J.D. 850 very hard at the time I remember about the housing data. Of course, there could be a difference as time went on or tractors got bigger.

But even so, if you'll check TractorData, you'll notice the Deere 950 outweighs the Yanmar. If they are identical, where does that extra weight come from?