Homestead community

[SabineHomestead]

Devide and concore , that is the world we live in , we all are there . Long a go people had familys that worked to gether , now we are so devided by apionions that mostly we get from unknologable people and news media , then pass it on to more . For a very long time i have been working on building up a homestead and wishing to build a community around it . Latly i have had people come here to volinter to help out on the place to learn about living on a homestead , with the hope to have a place of there's one day , but admit to how hard it is to get there own place , but fight the idea of working together . i have a place now , but cant find people that are willing to invest there money , like i have in to it . The people that wish to be part of it , thank its a grate idea after thay have lost every thang trying to do it on there own , whats wrong with investing in to this , before people have lost all there resorses and thanking that i can do it all for them with out eny help , but there last resorse , there labor . I wish i could find people with the same interest and willing to work and invest together yes i can spell very good , but just take a look at how far i have gotton with all my handycaps , heres are web site and for more up dates and newer photos go to the links button at the bottom of the page and look at the blog there , Thank You ,,,, www.sabinehomestead.org/

[jwal10]

You have a dream, everyone has their own dreams. This old world has gotten to be all about "ME". Everything is about the material things, look at what I have. This isn't the late 60's, early 70's. Then it was "Just sharin' man". Everyone is all about themselves and what "I" have done. I am 55 and seen it all, I have moved back to my old stompin' grounds and it isn't the way it used to be, much less of the communiy spirit. Good luck....James

[geo in mi]

'Ya gots to turn over a lot of rocks before 'ya gets gold......if there's any gold where yer turnin' over the rocks....

Times may be hard, but some people still aren't hungry enough. And you are offering freebies. My own opinion......

geo

[SabineHomestead]

thats funny James , my names james and im 55 too and have not given up on that 70s aditude . Shure wish people would thank more about making the world a better place and realize thay cant take it with them , in the end , but thay can leave it a better place if thay try . wish i could find people that care , not just the hungry looking for a free lunch , with no interest in a better life style , ready to go when its time to help .

[ronbre]

there are still some intentional communities around that homestead together..but there are also some areas of the country that people still live in extended family groups..

up until my in laws died we had a 3 house family group here, theirs, ours and our son's in a row, we all had simliar likes and dislikes and shared equipment, transportation and other things..

our son and us still have each other next door to each other, and then there are two people who are seasonal on our west (bought inlaws house) and south..that have similar likes as we do, and esp with the ones on west we share equipment, ideas, plants,e tc..and some labor

[Fowler]

Originally Posted by SabineHomestead

Devide and concore , that is the world we live in , we all are there . Long a go people had familys that worked to gether , now we are so devided by apionions that mostly we get from unknologable people and news media , then pass it on to more . For a very long time i have been working on building up a homestead and wishing to build a community around it . Latly i have had people come here to volinter to help out on the place to learn about living on a homestead , with the hope to have a place of there's one day , but admit to how hard it is to get there own place , but fight the idea of working together . i have a place now , but cant find people that are willing to invest there money , like i have in to it . The people that wish to be part of it , thank its a grate idea after thay have lost every thang trying to do it on there own , whats wrong with investing in to this , before people have lost all there resorses and thanking that i can do it all for them with out eny help , but there last resorse , there labor . I wish i could find people with the same interest and willing to work and invest together yes i can spell very good , but just take a look at how far i have gotton with all my handycaps , heres are web site and for more up dates and newer photos go to the links button at the bottom of the page and look at the blog there , Thank You ,,,, www.sabinehomestead.org/

Sounds like you're trying to start a cult, throw in a religion and they will come.

[oregon woodsmok]

Did I understand you right? You are mystified as to why people won't use their money to improve your place?

[SabineHomestead]

No not starting a cult and God and Christ , i beleve hates religions . Thay pick the parts of the bible thay like and dissmith the parts thay dont like , in the bible christ says in the begening that he has not come to do away with the laws of God . But this is for each of us to learn , if we wish and i dont push others to do or learn eny thang about this , its up to each of us to learn if we wish . As for this being my place , yes now its in my name , but as i sead , non of it can we take with us when we die and i plan to set this up as a non profit to go on after i do . the homestead is going to be the focal point to supply are needs , but very close by is a subdivion with hundreds of lots going for as little as $300. each that has 2 boat ramps to a very big lake and national forest . As i , or others wishing to joine can , we'll buy these lots and build houses and cabins for are members . Aleady have 4 of them . I dont know how it will all work out , but im trying and as others help , we well build it ! Yes its true i dont have all the anssers , but every one that has and will help will have some of them , it happening , i just wish it was faster ,,,,

[mamita]

I get all willy nilly about people that can't spell. hey...I do my share of mistakes, but..come on..........

[SabineHomestead]

dont be willy nilly , some people like me have dislexia , and meny of them just dont show it by not pertisapating , but i cant help people with the thangs that i do know if i dont try . So just get over the cooky cutter mentality of every one shude be the same , and that only the perfict speller's have somethang to add to this inperfict world ,,,,

[texican]

good luck finding the rare birds, that want to do anything, this time of year, in E Texas... whether it be working or investing in a homestead... with the blast furnace weather we've had the last month. Live 30 minutes north of you, and it's been wicked... rain three days ago sure helped.

I think one of the problems with homesteads in this part of the country is they lack sex appeal... no attractive physical features (no mountains etc.) and not near any progressive meccas, like Austin. Daresay you'd be beating em off with a stick there.

Have a friend in Montana, that gets people to volunteer/apprentice in his logging and reclamation work... if I'd a told my grandpa a friend could get folks to work on his logging crew for free (heck, they may be paying for the experience) he'd raised his eyebrow and said some choice 'french' letting me know he thought I was full of hockey...

[DamnearaFarm]

Originally Posted by SabineHomestead

dont be willy nilly , some people like me have dislexia , and meny of them just dont show it by not pertisapating , but i cant help people with the thangs that i do know if i dont try . So just get over the cooky cutter mentality of every one shude be the same , and that only the perfict speller's have somethang to add to this inperfict world ,,,,

Spellcheck is available on pretty much any computer you buy these days and if not, then it's certainly available for free online.

http://www.spellcheck.net/

[Pony]

Originally Posted by SabineHomestead

thats funny James , my names james and im 55 too and have not given up on that 70s aditude . Shure wish people would thank more about making the world a better place and realize thay cant take it with them , in the end , but thay can leave it a better place if thay try . wish i could find people that care , not just the hungry looking for a free lunch , with no interest in a better life style , ready to go when its time to help .

If you're James, then who is Mike?

I'm confused...

[springvalley]

Checked out your web site, looks great and wonderfull thing your doing. One thing you may want to do differant is start your calves for oxen with a smaller yoke. The yoke your using in the picture is way to big for that small a calf, note how the calf looks like that is about all he can do is to hold it up. Now granted I made mistakes in my younger days doing things people said I couldn`t do, but I researched and did my homework and then went ahead and did it, I wish you nothing but good luck in your endevores and hope you can find some like minded folks to help work on your dreams. > Marc

[JuliaAnn]

As of right now the land is in your name and not yet as a non-profit?

I would guess that is the biggest obstacle you are facing. Anyone with any decency is going to be concerned about laboring away for someone else's benefit. If you already had your non profit set up, it might be more attractive to people. That has nothing to do with people being selfish. It has to do with people wanting something equitable in return for their labor and wanting to have a permanent home without having to worry if the person whose name is on the land deed is going to sell out, die, or in some other way lose the property. What can be promised to people for next year, or 5 years in the future, or 10 or 20? It's not selfish to want to own something for yourself so you will have security later in life.

Just my .03, as usual.

[Shygal]

Originally Posted by Pony

If you're James, then who is Mike?

I'm confused...

Me too

[SabineHomestead]

Hi All , Thanks for all your thoughts and Good wishes , James Mike H. is my name , but i go by mike , so i hope that clears that up . As far as Volunteers go , this year i have had 8 , that wonted to come here for a week , but had so much of a good time thay stayed a month and did lots and lots of work , just look at the web site thay built and blog thay did most of it , along with digging up and planting all the big garden , remodling the back porch , training the oxen , planting 1000 long leaf pine trees , cleaning the house up , teaching each other about making bread almost every day thay where here , and a lot more . The volunteer have been coming and more on the way in about a month , volunteers not the problem , its finding people that wish to be here long turm . buying a lot here if thats all thay can , or land and working together to build a community and the homestead to suport us , as well as helping set this up as a nonprofit . Apeal , Texican , we have one of the biggist and best fishing lake in texas Toledo Bend Resivoir , as well as the Sabine National Forest , both a few minite walk from the homestead or the subdivision . there are lots of posiblitys here , i have already put in over $100,000 to get it this far and lots and lots of work , just looking for other wishing the same to step up and get in to it ,,,,

[shanzone2001]

I think it is time for people to stop commenting on your spelling. You have made it clear that you have a disability and I give you kudos for not letting it hold you back from participating in the forum.

[tinknal]

James (Mike?), just my two cents here........
Such planned communities have failed in the past because everyone gets the same return weather or not they expend the same effort.

I think if you could set it up so that it meets the needs of the many yet still rewards the efforts of the few that it might attract a more ambitious class of people. This is peoples lives that you are talking about. No one is going to want to invest 20 years of their lives into this if they know that they will lose everything if the project fails.

I think that you need to treat it like a taxed capitalistic endeavor. The "tax" is the effort that people put into supplying the needs of the group, and the profit is the saleable excess and capitol improvements created by the individuals.

Here is an example. Say that you have 10 families and you need 20 acres of corn to feed the livestock that feeds those 10 families. Now you have 3 of the families who want to raise and sell a few market hogs. Those 3 families could plant an extra 5 acres of corn with their own effort (after helping plant the original 20 acres). This would be "their" corn and they could do with it as they please. They could even "hire" other families to help with the project. Say another family wants to sell some eggs. They could help the others and get paid in corn to feed their chickens.

I believe that the reason that most communes fail is because that the ambitious and the unambitious are rewarded the same. The ambitious soon tire of carrying the others and abandon the project, leaving it to those who would rather sit around and live on the efforts of others. Analogous to our current welfare state if you ask me......

[motdaugrnds]

I agree that it would be wonderful if people could "share" common goals in this day and time with our economy so crazy and so many people hurting. However, even the weakest among us need some assurance of some type of security before they start investing. I totally agree with JuliaAnn's post. (Goodness, look at what big business has done to their long-time employees!) I also agree with Tinknal.

SabineHomestead, your intentions may be quite honorable and, if so, I do praise you for the efforts you have already put into setting that community up. I am a bit confused, however, as you appear to be quite intelligent (despite your disability); yet, you are saying you want people to come and invest their time (and money) in a piece of land you own; then follow that with your "intent" to turn it into a non-profit later on. Surely you are aware we are not living in a time of much trust; so I doubt many of the "volunteers" you get are going to stay long-term under your present conditions!