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04/16/11, 08:01 PM
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Can you plant yellow and red raspberries in the same area?
I have always heard that you should not plant red and black together. But, not sure if that is true....
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04/16/11, 09:11 PM
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Yes, if you buy virus free stock - which is about anything not dug up in the wild these days.
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04/17/11, 12:00 PM
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The only problem with planting different colors together is that whichever plant is the most aggressive will take over your plot.
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04/17/11, 12:37 PM
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Oregon Woodsmok has it right, we planted yellow and red together and the yellow now has the upper hand...they taste better anyway so we don't mind at all.
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04/17/11, 01:14 PM
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My yellow and red are together. They are fine. The black will be planted a ways away,but not the 700' they suggest.
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04/17/11, 02:01 PM
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There should be no reason why one would dominate the other. Both are the same species but merely a different color.
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04/17/11, 05:34 PM
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For my own future reference, why can you not plant the red and black ones near each other? Thank you.
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04/17/11, 05:53 PM
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yes, they used to recommend isolating black raspberries but that is no longer a suggestion now for some reason..they dropped that recommendation
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04/17/11, 07:50 PM
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It better be okay to plant them together. I have black, red, and yellow all planted in the same patch. The black and red did fine in the same patch last year. I expanded this year and also added yellow raspberries to the patch.
I'll prune heavily, though, if needed, to keep them from taking over each other. The berries at my other place taught me what a disaster blackberries can be if not pruned enough...they can take over the world if given half a chance...
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04/18/11, 01:10 PM
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I don't agree that Red, Yellow and Black are the same just different colored. They each have their own flavor. Red seem tart to me, yellow are sweet.
Here on the farm when we planted Reds and Yellows together the yellows thrived and the reds didn't. We bought more Red and planted them on the other side of the garden and they have done quite well...same water, same sun and same soil (heavy clay).
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04/18/11, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by marinemomtatt
I don't agree that Red, Yellow and Black are the same just different colored. They each have their own flavor. Red seem tart to me, yellow are sweet.
Here on the farm when we planted Reds and Yellows together the yellows thrived and the reds didn't. We bought more Red and planted them on the other side of the garden and they have done quite well...same water, same sun and same soil (heavy clay).
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I don't believe that anyone said that blacks were the same as yellows or red since they are not. Yellow is merely an albinistic form which lacks the red. Because of that, they indeed would have a different taste. But again, yellow and red are the same species and just a different cultivar.
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04/19/11, 09:23 AM
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they may all be of the same species but they certainly have different traits, and that is how one could dominate the rest.
black raspberries grow like they are in a race, and have copious amounts of thorns, but don't really send out suckers.
yellow raspberries have no thorns, send out suckers far and wide, and produce berries clear into the fall until it freezes.
red raspberries send out suckers far and wide, are thornless and only produce berries in the summer.
The black raspberries may grow the fastest but are isolated, yellow raspberries are the most aggressive in our patch. The good news is they all taste good.
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04/19/11, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by catahoula
they may all be of the same species but they certainly have different traits, and that is how one could dominate the rest.
black raspberries grow like they are in a race, and have copious amounts of thorns, but don't really send out suckers.
yellow raspberries have no thorns, send out suckers far and wide, and produce berries clear into the fall until it freezes.
red raspberries send out suckers far and wide, are thornless and only produce berries in the summer.
The black raspberries may grow the fastest but are isolated, yellow raspberries are the most aggressive in our patch. The good news is they all taste good.
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Remember, there are different varieties of berries within each color of berry. The characteristics won't necessarily be the same in regard to when they produce, how fast they grow, etc. Some have shorter production periods; some have longer production periods. Some produce earlier; others produce later. Raspberries aren't any different than other plants in this regard. Consider, for example, the different cultivars of tomatoes and how varied they are. Blackberries and raspberries also have a huge amount of variation.
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04/19/11, 10:50 AM
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Remember the old saying: "Red and black, Friendly Jack; Red and yellow, kills a fellow".
No, wait... that's snakes. Never mind. :happy0035:
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04/19/11, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by catahoula
red raspberries send out suckers far and wide, are thornless and only produce berries in the summer.
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No, no, no! There are two types of reds, summer bearing and everbearing. Summer bearing ripens around midsummer. Everbearing ripens from August to October.
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04/19/11, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerngen
For my own future reference, why can you not plant the red and black ones near each other? Thank you.
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Reds can have a virus which can harm blacks. Better safe than sorry.
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04/19/11, 02:45 PM
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red raspberries send out suckers far and wide, are thornless and only produce berries in the summer
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I have a pretty good crop of reds that must be different, My reds have tons of thorns and taste of a perfumy sweet. Any ideas as to this?
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04/19/11, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paquebot
No, no, no! There are two types of reds, summer bearing and everbearing. Summer bearing ripens around midsummer. Everbearing ripens from August to October.
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My Heritage Red Raspberries were still giving me berries in Zone 5 last year in December. Now, that's probably not going to be typical, but if it is, WOW!
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