Military Families being notified of less Pay

just_sawing · #1 04/08/11, 08:20 AM

My daughter was notified last night that if the Gov doesn't get off their rump their Paycheck will be for one week not two. These families for the most part have one member deployed and typically lower rank.
The family readiness groups are meeting on how they can make sure that babies have enfameal.
What bothers me so much is that even the senators aid will get paid but not someone in combat

earthkitty · #2 04/08/11, 08:53 AM

NO ONE in Congress should be paid until our soldiers (and Marines), have been paid. Both sides are using groups such as the military and the elderly as pawns in their stupid political sparring.

I'm all for a shut down, IF it means that they shut down libraries and museums, get rid of Congress aand the IRS and all the aides and admins and secretaries and chefs and drivers and...

The Feds do the same thing the cities and states do; money gets tight because they overspend on their bridges to nowhere, then when TSHTF they say they have to cut police or firefighters (or not pay SS or military), rather than going to skeleton crews and eliminating non-essential services and programs.

Government WANTS everyone to believe that we simply must have government or we won't be safe. They use scare tactics that could cost people their lives, all for political gain or so their buddies can keep some cushy job.

They all make me sick, and they are ruining this country. Prayers for your daughter, as well as all military families affected.

Helena · #3 04/08/11, 09:15 AM

They are truly acting like kids in a playground.I always believed they should send a couple of housewives to Washington to work the budget. Michelle then would be clipping coupons too. How embarrassing we must look to the rest of the world !!! No..the "higher uppers" should not get paid. I always thought when you ran a company..and this country seems to be run like a company. That the boss paid his employees and if there was any money left then...the boss get paid. But..not in America I guess. Also. gas prices have increased by 103% since Obama has been in the White House. I realize it isn't ...all..his fault...but he sits where the buck stops and he sure isn't making decisions to help us working people. What's the deal with sending money to Venezuela so they can drill for oil. I just don't get it..??

IF..and I say if...they shut down the government...shut everything. Then you just might see people in the streets marching on Washington and making our voices heard..for real.....!!!

Concrete Cowboy · #4 04/08/11, 09:34 AM

I take issue with the government as much as anyone, but debt is ruining this country and it goes well beyond the government. It is cultural. The problem is found in most families, companies as well as local, state and federal government. We confuse want with need and we rush to have those “needs”.

Far too many people have car loans, student loans, credit card balances and overextended house payments that are considered normal. They sit there with high speed and cable TV in multiple rooms. They eat out twice a week. They have no plan for retirement and they point to the Government and with blame. Even the housing market crash was blamed on the lenders. Rarely do you hear about the borrowers. They apparently were victims.

Real change in this country can only happen in spite of government, not because of them.

TnAndy · #5 04/08/11, 09:44 AM

I'm thinking of opening a pawnshop that caters exclusively to the military industrial complex. I'll take mortars, LAW rockets, Stinger missles, anything up to a Tomahawk cruise....50 cents on the dollar.

NEUrbanHmstdr · #6 04/08/11, 09:48 AM

Gubiment leadership at its finest. I don't know what's worse the fact that the difference between the two sides is less than 0.2% of the total budget or that the GOP's line in the sand aren't about the budget but about funding for Planned Parenthood and the Clean Air Act enforcement.

earthkitty · #7 04/08/11, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Helena

Also. gas prices have increased by 103% since Obama has been in the White House. I realize it isn't ...all..his fault...but he sits where the buck stops and he sure isn't making decisions to help us working people.

Well Obama says you should just buy a better car and quit complaining.:smiley-laughing013::smiley-laughing013::smiley-laughing013:

grrrrrr..."let them eat cake"...grrrrr

Wolf mom · #8 04/08/11, 10:01 AM

I'm so sick of this carp - one more thing to blame the republicans for. The democrats had MONTHS to resolve the budget issue. Now, it's turned political, and will be one more thing for spinmeister Obama to use.

Why wasn't a budget passed ago when it was suppose to be done? Last night Rangle said it's because no one made it an issue. Doing your job is an issue??

More scare tactics- just like no food for seniors. Well, I'm a pretty poor senior and I have my stash. I may not be able to drive to town, but I'll survive.

We all knew something like this was coming. Although I too believe those fighting for our country need their pay, what about personal family responsibility which includes tucking something away for the future when some sort of SHTF occurs like this boondoggle?

Beeman · #9 04/08/11, 11:00 AM

As this hits each and everyone it's interesting to watch. It's just an indication of how everyone was drinking some of the milk. No doubt that leadership should set an example. I think any one worth a darn in Congress should step up and not take a pay check if no one else gets one. I think they could command quite a bit of respect.

grandmajo · #10 04/08/11, 12:04 PM

I read an article that said if the government shut down that the CIA would have it's non-essential personnel not come to work.

I read that to my DH and he said exactly what I thought. If they're non-essential, then what are they doing there in the first place?

Morakai · #11 04/08/11, 12:47 PM

What sticks in my craw is the fact that if the government does shut down it is going to cost even MORE money than if the stupid heads in Congress was to get their acts together. Takes money to shut down. Takes even MORE money to start back up. Then the over-time to get back on track from all the paperwork piling up. Yeesh! Why can't they do their dang jobs in the first place instead of posturing for the media? Just so they can look good for next years elections. Fools! They are ALL FOOLS!!!!

house06 · #12 04/08/11, 01:02 PM

We were active duty during 95 and the last shutdown. We had money saved, not alot but enough that we could have gotten by but thankfully it was not necessary at that point.

I am highly highly annoyed that the first I heard of the shutdown and military pay was the Obama administration announcement that it would impact and "harm" military members.

Why does that sound like more political posturing and throwing a temper tantrum instead of doing everything within ones power as the POTUS to ensure that doesnt happen? It is sad to me to use the military as a pawn in political games. Noone wants to see soldiers and their families go without pay , nor seniors or children go to bed hungry.

I think that is a new all time low for our current president to use this point to try and sway public opinion and point fingers. If he really "cared" about the military he would not rest until he had exhausted all possibilities and while he was at it, start bringing home troops from deployment zones and greatly reducing our contribution to 3 war zones.

Yeah, he feels the military servicemembers' pain alright!!!!

Sonshine · #13 04/08/11, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf mom

I'm so sick of this carp - one more thing to blame the republicans for. The democrats had MONTHS to resolve the budget issue. Now, it's turned political, and will be one more thing for spinmeister Obama to use.

Why wasn't a budget passed ago when it was suppose to be done? Last night Rangle said it's because no one made it an issue. Doing your job is an issue??

More scare tactics- just like no food for seniors. Well, I'm a pretty poor senior and I have my stash. I may not be able to drive to town, but I'll survive.

We all knew something like this was coming. Although I too believe those fighting for our country need their pay, what about personal family responsibility which includes tucking something away for the future when some sort of SHTF occurs like this boondoggle?

Yep, you hit the nail on the head. This should have been resolved in Sept. while the Dems had the majority in everything. NOW, they want to say it's all about planned parenthood. Give me a break. If they had done their job, then they could be working on 2012's budget, which is what they should be doing. Instead, they have kept the country, basically hostage with uncertainty. DH has been fielding calls all day from units around the world asking what's going to happen to their families.

Sonshine · #14 04/08/11, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by house06

We were active duty during 95 and the last shutdown. We had money saved, not alot but enough that we could have gotten by but thankfully it was not necessary at that point.

I am highly highly annoyed that the first I heard of the shutdown and military pay was the Obama administration announcement that it would impact and "harm" military members.

Why does that sound like more political posturing and throwing a temper tantrum instead of doing everything within ones power as the POTUS to ensure that doesnt happen? It is sad to me to use the military as a pawn in political games. Noone wants to see soldiers and their families go without pay , nor seniors or children go to bed hungry.

I think that is a new all time low for our current president to use this point to try and sway public opinion and point fingers. If he really "cared" about the military he would not rest until he had exhausted all possibilities and while he was at it, start bringing home troops from deployment zones and greatly reducing our contribution to 3 war zones.

Yeah, he feels the military servicemembers' pain alright!!!!

The republican's tried to put forth a measure to ensure the military would be able to be paid, but Obama said he would veto it. Guess that shows what he thinks of the military.

house06 · #15 04/08/11, 01:13 PM

Additional stress those that serve in uniform do not need! Congress should really be ashamed of themselves.

HOTW · #16 04/08/11, 01:55 PM

I have been saying for many years that Congress was a bunch of crooks and the fact that they want to be paid and screw everyone else including the military tells you they have no ethics either! Obama saying he would veto and military pay measure but apporve one for Congress shows us all what he thinks of every person in thsi country. We are the serfs that feed the sloth at the top.He thinks he is better than everyone else, and now we see it truthfully.

Sonshine · #17 04/08/11, 02:03 PM

There are some Senators and Congress that have said if they don't get it done and govt shuts down and military doesn't get paid that they will not take pay either. Those are the people I'm watching, and would probably support in elections, regardless of what party they are affiliated with.

Sonshine · #18 04/08/11, 02:07 PM

DH just checked his LES and the same thing. 1/2 pay. So even if it's resolved tonight, the military won't get it till the end of the month, IF they fix things. Fortunately for us, we can handle half pay for now. All leave has been canceled too.

twomeal · #19 04/08/11, 02:08 PM

im in iraq right now. im supposed to get my 2 wks r&r leave in a couple weeks. i was told today it may not happen. civilians run the planes and travel. ive been gone from my husband and baby since he was 2 months old. i was supposed to be there for his first birthday and my first mothers day. im still hoping.

additionally, my LES (paycheck we check online) is showing about half of what i normally get and showing a debt of $1100. ugh.

my3boys · #20 04/08/11, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf mom

I'm so sick of this carp - one more thing to blame the republicans for. The democrats had MONTHS to resolve the budget issue. Now, it's turned political, and will be one more thing for spinmeister Obama to use.

Why wasn't a budget passed ago when it was suppose to be done? Last night Rangle said it's because no one made it an issue. Doing your job is an issue??

More scare tactics- just like no food for seniors. Well, I'm a pretty poor senior and I have my stash. I may not be able to drive to town, but I'll survive.

We all knew something like this was coming. Although I too believe those fighting for our country need their pay, what about personal family responsibility which includes tucking something away for the future when some sort of SHTF occurs like this boondoggle?

Yes, they were supposed to pass a budget last October but I believe the line of thought is that they didn't because they were afraid it would harm them in the elections. If this is true, it means they put their political careers above the good of the country (not that the budget would have been good for the country either!)

Makes you wonder what it was they wanted in that budget they thought the American people wouldn't like, doesn't it?

Carol