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Old 03/23/11, 09:33 AM
 
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how to tap a spring

on our property we just bought we think there is a spring, because there is like a shallow creek like area that is full of water but there is no starting creek and its not coming from the road. How can I tell and how can i tap into it if it is? This is something new to me.

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Old 03/23/11, 10:27 AM
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We have the same situation on our property. I know there's one there, but I'm scared to try to dig it out...what if we do and it floods the property next to ours (downhill from us)?

Good luck to you.

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I have absolutely no idea, but here's a discussion on another forum that might be of some help: http://countryplans.com/smf/index.ph...9649#msg119649

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Old 03/23/11, 12:07 PM
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We have a spring we found the other day that comes out of the rock. Its like a mini cave and water runs out under it. Anybody have any ideas for catching one like that?

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first you need to find out

first you need to find out if it is a wet weather spring or a real spring.....some water will dry up by july and some will have water even through the worst droughts.... you may be able to ask an old timer or wait it out a year or so and see if goes dry........ lots of ways to catch the water from cementing a bottom and building a small concrete dam with a pipe cemented in it....to using a catch box and fill around it with gravel.

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Old 03/23/11, 07:48 PM
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What do you want it for because to shallow its most likely not suitable for people. For animals, pound in a point and get a hand pump. we did that years ago on my parents place. Worked fine once we hand pumped enough so the water ran clear.

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Old 03/23/11, 10:34 PM
 
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I put in a few each summer for people. WHat I do is I take my back hoe or mini excavator and dig a 6 foot square hole down a about six feet and put in 2 well tiles on top of each other. Then I will take the back hoe or excavator and dump a couple feet of washed gravel i nthe tile. THen back fill the whole excavation with more washed gravel about 2 feet to from the surface or all the way to grade. Usuall a small house is made for the top of it that covers the excavation.

More than likely it wont flood your neigbors Alot of super springs here are ditched to the road. ditches. I did hit one blasting rock on a job that was an 18 inch hole that gushed 500 gallons per minute and has been doin that for the last 10 years.

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Old 03/24/11, 10:48 AM
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I have absolutely no idea, but here's a discussion on another forum that might be of some help: http://countryplans.com/smf/index.ph...9649#msg119649
I went over to read about the spring and ended up reading the entire thread...amazing!
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Years ago, on another place I lived, people had tried finding springs to no avail. There would be water for a couple of minutes and then it would quit.

My father-in-law called an older gentleman to come "witch" water. I was very skeptical!

He started witching stopped in the same place several times. Took his toe and made a mark in the dirt. Told us to drive a sand point exactly where he had marked.

Bingo! Could not believe it. But that spring is still feeding that homestead and all who live on it.

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Years ago, on another place I lived, people had tried finding springs to no avail. There would be water for a couple of minutes and then it would quit.

My father-in-law called an older gentleman to come "witch" water. I was very skeptical!

He started witching stopped in the same place several times. Took his toe and made a mark in the dirt. Told us to drive a sand point exactly where he had marked.

Bingo! Could not believe it. But that spring is still feeding that homestead and all who live on it.
Spooky how that happens isn't it? Many doubt it but those who have experienced it swear by it.
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Old 03/24/11, 03:44 PM
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Same thing here; and I'm going over to read that thread.

When the dozer was cleaning off one of our acres, I saw the ground move like an ocean wave on both sides of his huge dozer. (This was in the latter part of an extremely dry summer.) The man driving the dozer told me we had water under that acre. Another man took an old metal clothes hanger I had, cut it into two parts and walked around that area. He told us the same thing and said it was "flowing" water; even told us from which direction it was. He could not, however, tell us how deep it is.

That acre slopes toward our neighbors; so if we ever get the money to have it dug, we will be putting up a dam first to make sure it will not disturb the neighbors.

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When the dozer was cleaning off one of our acres, I saw the ground move like an ocean wave on both sides of his huge dozer. (This was in the latter part of an extremely dry summer.) The man driving the dozer told me we had water under that acre.
Its called "pumping". You'll see that on construction sites all the time. I used to work for a geotechnical engineering company and was on job sites taking soil, concrete, and grout samples, as well as doing on-site testing. The "pumping" was something we paid attention to. When you will see it is paths that are made for machinery/cement trucks to access buildings under construction that are off of the future drives. The ground is not worked and compacted except to lay the path, which is temporary. In seasons when it rains theres gravel put down as a base. You can sit there all day long and watch some of these roads roll with the trucks and machines going across them kicking up dust clouds. If the pumping is real bad we'd let the engineers look it over and possibly re-do it with more support.

The pumping isn't always a good indicator of water. If you roll 30 tons of a truck over ground like that it will move, no matter how dry it is. If there is water down below like that a building sure wouldn't be built there.

I have a buddy of mine that swears by witching too. Hes seen it done. I haven't. I'd be curious to test a witcher though (is that what you'd call someone that witches?)
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I put in a few each summer for people. WHat I do is I take my back hoe or mini excavator and dig a 6 foot square hole down a about six feet and put in 2 well tiles on top of each other. Then I will take the back hoe or excavator and dump a couple feet of washed gravel i nthe tile. THen back fill the whole excavation with more washed gravel about 2 feet to from the surface or all the way to grade. Usuall a small house is made for the top of it that covers the excavation.
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I like your plan,its pretty much like I did the spring that's watered my place for 30 years now(and 100 before)
I simply dug out where the spring was. Keeping a eye on the strata that the water comes out of I dug back into the hill and down till I had a hole big enough to build a 4x4x8 concrete box with the top about 6 inches above the water level. It has a top but no bottom and I put in weep holes all around it. I built a concrete top and then a 2 foot tall concrete pump house on top of that. Then I buried it nearly to the top of the pump house in good sealing clay..
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Old 03/24/11, 09:46 PM
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"pumping"? This was an acre over 200 ft from a state road on land that had not been cleared in decades...certainly not graveled for trucks or anything else to cross on.

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