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Old 03/08/11, 12:04 PM
 
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Looking for kaffer corn seed

Does any one know of a source for bicolor (white) kaffer corn seed? Don't need a lot. I would like to grow a small amount to feed my small flock of chickens and some to save as seed stock for next year too. When I was a boy my grand parents grew it to feed the cow, pigs, and chickens and also to grind up some as a substitute for corn and wheat flour for us to eat. Gone out of fashion these days I guess because I just can't find a feed/seed store any place that sells it any more. Thanks,
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Old 03/09/11, 11:10 AM
 
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Thanks for the telephone number Farmboybill! Finally got thru to them. They indeed do have Kaffer corn seed for sale. They call it white popping sorgum now days but I am sure it is the same stuff we used to grow in Western Oklahoma when I was a child growing up with my grandparents. We used to drill it just like cotton only with different seed plates in the planter. Great stuff for poor folks. We fed the seed heads to the chickens and pigs and then cut the stalks for the cattle. My grandmother would also grind the seed for flour and save a little bit to pop like popcorn as a treat for us come nightfall and when the snow was too deep for the school bus. The cattle and pigs ate the stalks real good even though it was dried up in the fall. It grew really well in those hot, dry, windy summers. Prices of corn & wheat are so high it would work good instead of the feed we traditionally buy at the Feed Store. Thanks, again!
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Old 03/09/11, 11:19 AM
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What's different about this variety of corn? High production? Easy to get kernals off cob? Does it grow differently or is it just a family tradition that you are trying to pick up?
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Old 03/09/11, 01:14 PM
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What's different about this variety of corn? High production? Easy to get kernals off cob? Does it grow differently or is it just a family tradition that you are trying to pick up?
Read the post above yours again. She is talking about sorghum, not corn. Sorghum has seed heads, not ears. It is very drought tolerant once it gets started.

Most modern corns are not drought tolerant. Old flint indian corn is about the only corn I am familiar with that can tolerate extreme weather and infertile soil and still provide a harvest. Maybe not big harvest, but you will get something. Your modern hybrid would be dead long before it produced anything in these conditions.

For original poster, look around, several catalogs have popping sorghum. Know Shumway does or at least used to. No catalog calls it kaffer corn that I know of. There is also broom corn which is kinda halfway between sorghum and corn.

Several older varieties of sorghum sold by http://www.nativeseeds.org/catalog/i...be039n48di6vq3
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Really neat site HJ
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Old 03/09/11, 05:15 PM
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It seemed to me that the posting above mine only described all corn - except for the popping part. So no ear and kernals like field corn? what kind of flour do the seeds make? I remember my dad cutting us pieces of sugar cane out of his fields.
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Old 03/09/11, 07:56 PM
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Thanks for the telephone number Farmboybill! Finally got thru to them. They indeed do have Kaffer corn seed for sale. They call it white popping sorgum now days but I am sure it is the same stuff we used to grow in Western Oklahoma when I was a child growing up with my grandparents. We used to drill it just like cotton only with different seed plates in the planter. Great stuff for poor folks. We fed the seed heads to the chickens and pigs and then cut the stalks for the cattle. My grandmother would also grind the seed for flour and save a little bit to pop like popcorn as a treat for us come nightfall and when the snow was too deep for the school bus. The cattle and pigs ate the stalks real good even though it was dried up in the fall. It grew really well in those hot, dry, windy summers. Prices of corn & wheat are so high it would work good instead of the feed we traditionally buy at the Feed Store. Thanks, again!
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It seemed to me that the posting above mine only described all corn - except for the popping part. So no ear and kernals like field corn? what kind of flour do the seeds make? I remember my dad cutting us pieces of sugar cane out of his fields.
Notice where I highlighted line in Okie's post: "They call it white popping sorgum now days"

There is a variety of sorghum that produces seed that pops like popcorn only it really just puffs up a bit, far less than popcorn.

Sorghum is not sugar cane. I know people get all mixed up with terms sorghum and molasses and tend to use the terms interchangably. Sorghum is the liquid squeezed from the sorghum plant stalk (special varieties of sorghum grown to make sorghum syrup) and boiled down into a syrup much like maple syrup would be from maple tree sap. Molasses is the leftovers after sugar is extracted from sugar cane juice. Sugar cane is a tropical plant. Sorghum is not and can grow as far north as Minnesota and Wisconsin, though usually not grown that far north. It can grow anywhere field corn can mature and can be dry farmed where modern varieties of corn couldnt be farmed without irrigation. I remember as a kid in Iowa, Mom and Dad taking containers to buy sorghum from guy that raised it and had a sorghum press.

If you just must do it, think of sorghum grain as milo, if term sorghum is too confusing for you. Thats what commercial sorghum grain crops are called in this country. Though modern milo varieties raised as livestock feed is not the same varieties of traditional sorghum grains raised for human consumption. Milo varieties grown commercially are much more dwarf and I doubt you would find the seed tasty. It has become an industrial commodity looking for highest production and cheapest price just like modern field corn.

Anyway a sorghum plant looks almost identical to a corn plant as it grows. Corn developes ears, milo developes seed heads where you would expect the tassle to be on corn.

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Old 03/09/11, 09:33 PM
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we once raised money in our church by making sorghum. I am familiar with that, but didnt' remember the relationship to corn. It was LONG time ago.

Do animals do well on the stalks? Or are they pretty much shot after the sugar is squeezed out?

I looked at some of the varieties on the site you gave us. I guess it mixes the popping sorghum and sugar canes together?

I am interested in this because we are looking for something to plant to feed our animals. Steers, sheep chickens. We really don't want to invest in harvesting equipment and don't want to have to spend a lot of money on sprays - if we have to do that, we would be better off baling hay. I am interested to see if it was a hardier crop that the animals could also eat by grazing rather than my picking and shelling ears of corn.
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Old 03/10/11, 10:00 AM
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Some varieties are grown for grain, others for juicing, others for forage. Buy some and plant a few rows and see if it meets your needs. Extremely easy to grow and one of few things that makes it through my annual summer drought here. For me it just needs to be planted as early as possible. It can survive drought, but drought will slow it down considerably if it comes at wrong time.

Again its not sugar cane, sorghum and sugar cane are two very different species. Some varieties of sorghum have been traditionally developed that are extra juicy/sweet and used to juice and make sorghum syrup. Those varieties are harvested before any seed developes/matures. If left to harvest seed off them, they may not produce as much seed as varieties developed for grain production.

If you want it as animal feed, you might want to look into commercial varieties of milo. Sure its far more productive than the traditional varieties, just maybe not very tasty for human consumption. However industrial crop varieties usually are pretty chemically dependent in order to achieve that high productivity. I dont know about taste, never tried eating industrially farmed milo. However industrially farmed corn and soy varieties are sure not selected for taste, so no reason to think industrially farmed milo is any different.
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