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Old 02/11/11, 05:24 PM
 
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Question How high for a deer fence? (Non-electric)

Just curious how high a fence you would recommend for keeping the deer-folk out of the garden area sampling the veggies? I will NOT be electrifying this fence in case that makes a difference in the recommendations... can't afford that. Thanks

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Old 02/11/11, 05:36 PM
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Here in WV I have seen deer jump over an 8 foot high fence.

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Old 02/11/11, 05:39 PM
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I have 8' deer fence around my garden and the deer do jump it on occassion. What I found that has kept the deer down is I ran a hot wire around in front of the deer fence about 3 foot high and smeared peanut butter on it. Now they don't try to jump the deer fence like they did before I had a hotwire.. Also put up the fence before you have a garden. Then they won't associate there being food on the other side of the fence...

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Dang! So we are talking 10 ft t-posts and a double course of 48" fence mesh. geez... maybe this garden will be a bit smaller than I had originally planned. It may be cost effective to put in a solar fence charger after all. thanks again for the help.

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Do a search on slanted deer fences. I like the ones with wires on the slant plus wires on the upright. The one study I read said the deer's eyes aren't able to process both sets of wires and they move along to other areas.

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Dang! So we are talking 10 ft t-posts and a double course of 48" fence mesh. geez... maybe this garden will be a bit smaller than I had originally planned. It may be cost effective to put in a solar fence charger after all. thanks again for the help.

.....................if you're going too spend that much why not just build a plastic covered green house ? , fordy
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Old 02/11/11, 06:48 PM
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.....................if you're going too spend that much why not just build a plastic covered green house ? , fordy
greenhouse units are tremendous energy hogs as they must be ventilated. A high tunnel with roll up sides and opening ends would work better, but you'd have to go out after the heat of the day was past to close it up to keep the deer out.

I have always read that it takes a ten foot high fence to properly keep deer out of an area.
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Old 02/11/11, 06:53 PM
 
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I've got mule deer, and I think it makes a difference what type of deer.

Around my house is a 6 ft tall chain link fence. The deer hang out, hoping that someone will leave the gate open, but they've never jumped in. The fence has been up and the deer outside for 20 years now.

My son just put in 7 ft tall game wire around his orchard. So far, so good. The deer crushed down wire tree rings, but haven't jumped into the orchard since the fence was finished.

I see the local deer inside 5 ft fences all the time. So somewhere between 5-6 ft is their comfort zone for an easy jump.

Also, they'll go over a solid 6 ft fence long before they'll go over a 6 ft that has some movement to it and a top line that isn't as clearly defined. (don't put a top bar on there. It makes it easy to judge the height)

The game wire comes in 8 ft tall, but that's awfully heavy (weight wise) to handle without a tractor mounted wire un-roller (whatever that tool is called).

If the deer ever do go over my fence, I'll add extensions and the cheap deer netting. It's light so I won't have to set heavier posts.

It also depends upon how hungry the deer are. If there is nothing to eat outside the fence, they will put a lot more effort into getting inside the veggie garden.

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Old 02/11/11, 08:16 PM
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We found that instead of going up..we went out. A double fence just 3-4 foot high separated by 3 feet kept the deer out of our garden. I understand that the 3 foot is just that they can't jump into or over. We used a nice woven metal fence for the inside and use it for the climbing veggies.

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We found that instead of going up..we went out. A double fence just 3-4 foot high separated by 3 feet kept the deer out of our garden. I understand that the 3 foot is just that they can't jump into or over. We used a nice woven metal fence for the inside and use it for the climbing veggies.
Yep, that's what the slant fence does, too. It doesn't have to be high, but the different distances make it too hard for the deer to calculate a landing, so they don't try.
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Old 02/11/11, 09:07 PM
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I use Deer X...it's 7 feet tall. I use 3/4 inch PVC poles cut down to 7 feet or so. I pound rebar into the ground and then slide the PVC poles (painted green so they look a little nicer) over the rebar. I attach the netting to the poles using zip ties which I slide up when I want to go into the garden.

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Old 02/11/11, 09:24 PM
 
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I just saw a post somewhere about a chain link fence that was too low. The owner took lath, like the kind used in snow fence, and stuck it into the top of the fence every 18" or so, letting it stick up a few feet. The deer decided that it was now impossible to jump through the upright sticks. Seems pretty smart to me.

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Old 02/11/11, 10:29 PM
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We had a regular 48" fence around the garden and added another 48" on top of that about 6" off and folding over toward the inside at the top. So far so good!

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Old 02/11/11, 10:42 PM
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I think it depends on what you have inside the fence and how much food the deer have outside the fence.

I've seen mulies jump a 10' high fence when the only food available was inside the fence. I've also seen them held out by a 6' fence as long as they had good food and water available.

Angling the top of the fence toward the outside seems to help keep them out.

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I have a 4' fence and a big dog. Dog food is cheaper than more fencing.

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Old 02/12/11, 08:31 AM
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I vote for the double fence 48" high. I ran ducks around the garden in a pen between two 4' high fences that were 5' apart. Never had a deer in the garden. 3' apart would be better. Even though you'll be buying more t-posts, the 6' are so much cheaper than the 10, plus the wire is easier to run. Also, as someone noted, you'll have the inner fence for climbing vegs.

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Old 02/12/11, 10:55 AM
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I think Belfrybat has a great idea. If I had not already double-decked our garden fence, that is what I would do. (I double fenced our fruit trees and this stopped the deer from eating on them even though the deer could, at that time, still get near them.)

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I think Belfrybat has a great idea. If I had not already double-decked our garden fence, that is what I would do. (I double fenced our fruit trees awhile back and this stopped the deer from eating on them even though the deer could, at that time, still get near them.)

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Old 02/12/11, 11:15 AM
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double fence. Never heard of the slant fence but a google search shows it should work.

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Old 02/12/11, 12:24 PM
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I've always hear deer can jump either far or high....they have to pick one or the other. The lower double fence would work, as would a high fence with the slanting at the top.

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I kept them out of my garden with a 3' chicken wire fence and a single strand of electric fence over the top of the chicken wire using a $20 pet fence charger. I put tin foil smeared with peanut butter on it to educate the deer to fear the fence.

Before the electric fence they ate my peas as soon as they grew tall enough to eat. After putting that hot wire up and educating them they stayed away.

If you put the hot wire 4" over the top of the mesh fence it should be coon proof too. I would attach the mesh fence to the ground of the charger to insure the coon gets a good zap.

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I like the 8foot woven wire....then why not add a cou[ple of smooth wires on top with some cloth strips to dangle?

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most people use 6' but 8' would probably be a more sure thing..

myself I feel if you have enough wildlife food outside of your fence or your garden you probably won't have a problem with the deer jumping the fence, but if they are starving cause there is nothing to eat, then they'll find a way in

i provide tons of food outside of my fence for my deer and wildlife to eat and they seldom bother the gardens or even the mixed food forest beds that aren't fenced

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We have tried many things over the years to keep deer out of the garden. Most deterants only work a short while. Finally we drove fence stakes ; which are made from small diameter trees, limbed and sharpened on one end; into the ground about six feet apart. We used rope to make a fence around the perimeter of the garden a few feet away from the plants.

Where the squash and cucumbers were, which deer love, we put up a few stakes and ran rope slash ways across the top of the plants creating narrow alley ways. We were pleasantly surprised to find the deer will not walk between a narrow rope alley way. They wouldn't jump the perimeter ropes because if they did the would land in the narrow rope alley. We discovered deer do not like narrorw places where there is no room to turn around or be able to jump to flee.

I was a local fisherman/ hunter who suggested this and it seems to work.The rope was free as it was discarded by someone. The fence stakes we cut ourselves. The only cost was fence staples to attach the rope to the stakes.

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We do 8 feet almost exclusively for our clients. A lot like DeerBuster's netting.

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most people use 6' but 8' would probably be a more sure thing..

myself I feel if you have enough wildlife food outside of your fence or your garden you probably won't have a problem with the deer jumping the fence, but if they are starving cause there is nothing to eat, then they'll find a way in

i provide tons of food outside of my fence for my deer and wildlife to eat and they seldom bother the gardens or even the mixed food forest beds that aren't fenced
The deer here eat freely in our pasture and hayfield and get plenty to eat. Still they like the garden too.Must be dessert!
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I've also seen a deer leap over an 8' high chainlink fence. Took her two tries but on the last one I down think she even clicked her heels. I've also seen a cow jump a 4' high chainlink fence with no problems.

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We put up an 8' high fence provided by the Department of Wildlife here in western Colorado. Never had a deer go near it.....we also have a big black lab that barks at them, I'm sure that helps.

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I've also seen a deer leap over an 8' high chainlink fence. Took her two tries but on the last one I down think she even clicked her heels. I've also seen a cow jump a 4' high chainlink fence with no problems.
When some cat starts tuning his fiddle, all bets are off on how high a cow can jump....
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I've heard that deer won't walk through a narrow space or they won't walk on wire laid on the ground.

Well, I've got a space about 2 feet wide between my orchard fence and my berry patch fence. It makes a chute about 25f feet long and there is a double layer of chicken wire laying on the ground the full length, plus a bunch of big rocks.

The deer have no problems going through that. It's on their regular route.

I'm scared one the the big bucks is going to get his antlers wedged in there and he'll be caught and damage my fence, but so far it hasn't happened.

I just wouldn't count on narrow spaces or wire on the ground stopping deer.

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