Food shortages could bring riots to the US, FOX NEWS 13JAN11

[cornbread]

Food shortages could bring riots to the US, FOX NEWS 13JAN11

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Food prices soaring to prices never before seen..."

"It's a confluence of bad things. Our supplies are already low - corn, rice, sugar, wheat, coffee and now we're finding out that the crops we were expecting may be light as well which means prices are on the rise."

"When corn prices went up two years ago, it sparked food riots..."

I'm still wondering about this one thing: Why oh why did our beloved government decide to REMOVE food and energy from the Consumer Price Index?

Is it because, if worse comes to worse, we can just sit at home and starve?

[therunbunch]

Originally Posted by cornbread

Is it because, if worse comes to worse, we can just sit at home and starve?

Pretty Much

[HermitJohn]

Originally Posted by cornbread

I'm still wondering about this one thing: Why oh why did our beloved government decide to REMOVE food and energy from the Consumer Price Index?

Is it because, if worse comes to worse, we can just sit at home and starve?

Its the same as the old "Let them eat cake!" mantra only its been updated to "Let them eat Chinese electronics..." mmmm....cardboard.....

[rambler]

If there is no inflation, don't have to up several indexes - mostly Social Security doesn't need to be raised, as it hasn't for several years.

With those 2 off of the scale, no inflation. They know those items are going up, with QE2 (the plan to inject money into the ecconomy for several months), they know the basics are going to rise. It's a given we will have inflation from QE2.

I'm not thinking deep dark motives from the govt; but from their point of view, inflation is the cure for bad ecconomy; not 'seeing' the inflation on SS and other areas is also a good thing.

From where you or I siut, we might see things differently.

As I mentioned in a different thread, USA exports grains, lots of it, so we will not be short of grain in the USA. No need to riot for a 'shortage'. Prices are going to whip-saw this spring in increadable ways, but that is just the world market trying to plan ahead for this fall's harvest, and if we calmly sit out of the way, things will return to about normal come mid summer in the USA. We are facing about the same thing as in 2008, and likely will have the same sort of year.

Your feed supplier & your food maker have all locked away good grain prices already for 70% of their needs, and will not be paying much of the super high grain prices. They will of course charge you more and create a big clamor about how much grains are costing them.....

The high prices are more to ensure farmers across the globe plant enough of each crop. Very little actual grain is bought & sold at those high prices. It's a money game - one that is needed to keep the right kinds of grains available.

It will be something to sit back & watch, of course!

--->Paul

[Jena]

The American people have been placated with cheap consumer goods for years. I can buy a TV that is bigger, better and cheaper than one I could buy 10 years ago, but food, energy and health care is much higher.

Easy credit fits in there too. People have been satisfied thinking their standard of living has increased, when in fact, things are not quite that rosy.

[fishhead]

This is what we get when speculators (gamblers) get encouraged with tax breaks and workers are undervalued. As long as working class Americans have a nickle in their pocket someone will lie away at night trying to figure out a way to take it.

[Loquisimo]

Originally Posted by cornbread

Food shortages could bring riots to the US, FOX NEWS 13JAN11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLwsCykqIY

Food prices soaring to prices never before seen..."

"It's a confluence of bad things. Our supplies are already low - corn, rice, sugar, wheat, coffee and now we're finding out that the crops we were expecting may be light as well which means prices are on the rise."

"When corn prices went up two years ago, it sparked food riots..."

I'm still wondering about this one thing: Why oh why did our beloved government decide to REMOVE food and energy from the Consumer Price Index?

Is it because, if worse comes to worse, we can just sit at home and starve?

Well, I know of panic buying that occurred in California during 2008, especially among Asian communities who were faced with rice shortages, but no RIOTS in the USA. In the undeveloped world, yes, but not in the US. I may need to stock up on rice before the Asians panic again. Eventually there may be food riots in the US-we have exceeded the planet's capacity by a LOT, and eventually everybody will starve.

[Deacon Mike]

Originally Posted by cornbread

I'm still wondering about this one thing: Why oh why did our beloved government decide to REMOVE food and energy from the Consumer Price Index?

Food and energy are included in calculating inflation

[kirkmcquest]

I doubt we will see riots here. There is more food here and more farm land then just about any other country. Food prices will rise, its already happening. Great reason to start gardening/homesteading on a bigger scale.

[JuliaAnn]

Unprecedented?

No, I remember back in the early/mid 70's. If I recall correctly, it was '75, maybe '76, sugar and meat prices in particular went very high. No riots that I recall, but then I was a young teenager at the time and may simply have not been aware of them.

So this is not 'unprecedented'.

[Stephen in SOKY]

Originally Posted by JuliaAnn

Unprecedented?

No, I remember back in the early/mid 70's. If I recall correctly, it was '75, maybe '76, sugar and meat prices in particular went very high. No riots that I recall, but then I was a young teenager at the time and may simply have not been aware of them.

So this is not 'unprecedented'.

How quickly we forget! There was a resurgence in canning & home food preservation just as there is now. Canning lid shortages everywhere. Wood stoves suddenly came back into fashion. People suddenly grew gardens that hadn't in many years, others gardened for the first time. We all thought we'd never be able to pay for gasoline or diesel. The parallels between then and now are striking.

[7thswan]

Yup, we have another Carter X TEN in office. We need to Tax all Chinese Goods,and pay off our debt to them. Course in Carters days the scam was global cooling, ya, that-the ice age never came and now we have the global warming scam. And why isn't everyone screaming at Obama about price of fuel. Is it because they don't want to mention that he shut down our rigs and gave Brazil and George Soros Billions of dollars to drill over there, and off the oil rigs in the Gulf to Friendly waters.

[7thswan]

Originally Posted by cornbread

Food shortages could bring riots to the US, FOX NEWS 13JAN11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLwsCykqIY

Food prices soaring to prices never before seen..."

"It's a confluence of bad things. Our supplies are already low - corn, rice, sugar, wheat, coffee and now we're finding out that the crops we were expecting may be light as well which means prices are on the rise."

"When corn prices went up two years ago, it sparked food riots..."

I'm still wondering about this one thing: Why oh why did our beloved government decide to REMOVE food and energy from the Consumer Price Index?

Is it because, if worse comes to worse, we can just sit at home and starve?

Why did they remove it? to cripple the middle class in our country. Remember this is being done purposely. Read the Cloward and Piven Strategy. It' s being done to bring up to our knees and they assume we will let socialism and the Government run our lives. Wake up people, ya think the Tea Party's are just hanging out drinking Tea?

[geo in mi]

"Has the BLS removed food or energy prices in its official measure of inflation?
No. The BLS publishes thousands of CPI indexes each month, including the headline All Items CPI for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) and the CPI-U for All Items Less Food and Energy. The latter series, widely referred to as the "core" CPI, is closely watched by many economic analysts and policymakers under the belief that food and energy prices are volatile and are subject to price shocks that cannot be damped through monetary policy. However, all consumer goods and services, including food and energy, are represented in the headline CPI.

Most importantly, none of the prominent legislated uses of the CPI excludes food and energy. Social security and federal retirement benefits are updated each year for inflation by the All Items CPI for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W). Individual income tax parameters and Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) returns are based on the All Items CPI-U. "

You can get the full story from :http://www.bls.gov/cpi/

I think someone wants to play upon your fears..........
geo.

[Deacon Mike]

Originally Posted by 7thswan

Yup, we have another Carter X TEN in office. We need to Tax all Chinese Goods,and pay off our debt to them. Course in Carters days the scam was global cooling, ya, that-the ice age never came and now we have the global warming scam. And why isn't everyone screaming at Obama about price of fuel. Is it because they don't want to mention that he shut down our rigs and gave Brazil and George Soros Billions of dollars to drill over there, and off the oil rigs in the Gulf to Friendly waters.

This is nonsense

[rambler]

Originally Posted by Stephen in SOKY

How quickly we forget! There was a resurgence in canning & home food preservation just as there is now. Canning lid shortages everywhere. Wood stoves suddenly came back into fashion. People suddenly grew gardens that hadn't in many years, others gardened for the first time. We all thought we'd never be able to pay for gasoline or diesel. The parallels between then and now are striking.

Wasn't it in Nixon's years? Other countries got real interested in buying USA grain, prices shot up.

The govt reacted by putting an embargo on grains, couldn't ship any outside the USA.

That brought down grain prices real fast.

It also got other countries to invest in Brazil & Argentennia openning up a lot of rainforest, made the USA a place of last resort to buy grains from.

Started the poor exchange of imports vs exports for th USA.

Caused the farm problems of the 1980's, with many small farmers going under, and the beginnings of the USA ag subsidies 0- which continues into this decade.

I sure hope the govt doesn't 'have to do something' again to wreck US ag again if prices jump around a little on grains.

Bad, bad, bad. Sure it drops grain prices 'right now', but it creates decades of problems for everyone....

--->Paul

[Tom VH]

Originally Posted by Stephen in SOKY

How quickly we forget! There was a resurgence in canning & home food preservation just as there is now. Canning lid shortages everywhere. Wood stoves suddenly came back into fashion. People suddenly grew gardens that hadn't in many years, others gardened for the first time. We all thought we'd never be able to pay for gasoline or diesel. The parallels between then and now are striking.

Yep, some times we all need a reminder that the US and global community can get a bit stormy, (don't stop learning how to fend for you're selves) but after the seventies we rose and thrived again, let's not get all panicky watching obvious "Fox propaganda for the excitable right wing Patriots" Ho Waite a minute I just looked out the window and the sky IS falling, I'd better get to my bomb shelter. Did you notice the riot police in the video, they never said there are riots occurring now, certainly not here, it was a ploy to fill you with fear and rage. calm down and do some research and that means a bit broader than Fox or MSNBC. I'll do some of my own, tonight, how about you?

[peri_simmons]

Amen Deacon Mike!!!

[peri_simmons]

Ps: Fox News?!!! Really, they wouldn't know a real fact if they fell over it.

[peri_simmons]

Ps: Fox News?!!! Really, they wouldn't know a real fact if they fell over it.

We ultra left wing call it Faux News.