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01/02/11, 12:24 AM
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A different angle for raw milk sales
I think these folks are on to something.
"A Chilliwack raw milk dairy ordered to stop distributing unpasteurized milk is now calling its products cosmetics."
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Chi...272/story.html
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01/02/11, 12:27 AM
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That's brilliant! Cleopatra's bathing milk, I love it.
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01/02/11, 12:44 AM
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I'd have to tell em "good luck with that". I could see the inspectors insisting on some actual cosmetic additives.
They've done similar things here in the states, having colorants, etc., added, when folks tried to skirt the law, by calling it pet food.
Btw... we're supposed to be back in raw goats milk, within two weeks. But there won't be any selling...
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01/02/11, 07:30 AM
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Excellent article. Presents both sides. Presents the issue of people's right to eat what they want without government interference.
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01/02/11, 08:59 AM
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I am reminded of the old joke that ends, "Do you want it pasteurized?" "No, just up to my chin."
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01/02/11, 09:35 AM
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in WI it is illegal to sell raw milk for any purpose doesn't matter what you call it.
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01/02/11, 10:10 AM
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And it is legal !! in Illinois to sell raw milk for human consumption, as long as you come to the farm and fill your container. I have no idea how much longer we will be able to do this. I have grown up drinking raw milk, I love the taste, flavor and health benifits to it. All I`m going to say on the subject. > Thanks Marc
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01/02/11, 04:09 PM
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In the U.S. you couldn't sell it as a cosmetic. But, I'm sure you could sell it as an ingredient for soap or other "cosmetic" use.
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01/02/11, 04:14 PM
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It is so darned sad that we have to come up with ways to circumvent our govt in order to get healthy food.
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01/02/11, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pony
It is so darned sad that we have to come up with ways to circumvent our govt in order to get healthy food.
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Squeezing your own bypasses pretty much every rule in every state, to my knowledge...
btw... our "government" is 'us'. Until we wean Americans from the concept of "safety", the concept of a "risk free" existence, and the concept of "immediate redress from any suffrage" (through lawsuits), then we'll have to live with the Nanny State Safety Police.
If I eat something iffy and get sick, I'll think twice about eating it again, or maybe I'll try it again, just to make sure. I'm not going to sue the grocery store, the manufacturer, or anyone else because I gambled and lost... if only everyone felt the same way...
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01/02/11, 11:33 PM
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Sure that is you. But that is the average Joe Blow. That is why we have laws to protect the Average Joe Blow when it comes to food products as well it sure be.
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01/02/11, 11:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texican
Squeezing your own bypasses pretty much every rule in every state, to my knowledge...
btw... our "government" is 'us'. Until we wean Americans from the concept of "safety", the concept of a "risk free" existence, and the concept of "immediate redress from any suffrage" (through lawsuits), then we'll have to live with the Nanny State Safety Police.
If I eat something iffy and get sick, I'll think twice about eating it again, or maybe I'll try it again, just to make sure. I'm not going to sue the grocery store, the manufacturer, or anyone else because I gambled and lost... if only everyone felt the same way...
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01/03/11, 10:10 AM
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There's a dairy about an hour from here that sells goat milk "for animal consumption only". Apparently that is still legal in Texas. There's another dairy further south that has a co-op plan. For $25.00 a year, you own a part share in a dairy goat and can then get milk, yogurt, cheese, etc. for a processing fee. If I lived closer, I'd join. Apparently co-ops are legal in Texas as well.
I remember the "good ole days" in the '70s when I went to a dairy and purchased a couple of gallons of cows milk every two weeks. And all nice and legal.
The sad thing is with all these new laws and helipcopter parents, kids are getting sicker because they are not exposed to germs and bacteria. My mother always said you eat a peck of dirt before you die. I really thinks that was a healthy view on child rearing.
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01/03/11, 12:53 PM
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Sure that is you. But that is the average Joe Blow. That is why we have laws to protect the Average Joe Blow when it comes to food products as well it sure be.
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No, I strongly disagree with you.
As long as there are laws to protect stupidity, there will be more stupid people doing stupid things.
Letting people take their lumps, i.e. CONSEQUENCES, for their behavior will teach them to be a bit smarter.
A bit.
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01/03/11, 05:55 PM
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Not when somebody sues the pants off you, and a person losses what little they may have in a small farm. Time will come. Americans are sue happy, and there are plenty of lawyers that would be more then happy to get richer.
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01/03/11, 06:13 PM
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When I was a kid, the neighbors up the road had a small dairy and my mom would buy raw milk from them in glass gallon jars. I don't know if it was legal then or just a neighborly "don't ask don't tell" thing. But no milk has ever tasted as good since as that ice cold fresh milk with a head of cream on it. I think producers should be able to sell raw milk if they wish, just slap a warning label on it. A one sentence warning label covers liquor and tobacco, after all. I think about how good that fresh wholesome milk tasted, and then I see these mothers in the store buying soy milk for their kids and it's just sad...really sad.
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01/04/11, 10:12 AM
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I recall reading about a place in Va (can't buy raw milk in NC from my understanding) where you bought a cow "share" (as in stock, pun intended) then since you were a part owner you were allowed to have your "own" raw milk.
For those not ready or capable for their own cow (or goat) seems like a good idea...
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01/04/11, 07:36 PM
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Newground, that is how we buy our milk.
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01/04/11, 07:58 PM
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I think the idea of owning "shares" of a cow is great!
There was a big court case here in Ontario not too long ago, with a farmer selling shares of cows so people could get raw milk.
He won! The government lost!!! It saw a lot of publicity.
( "Joe blow" will always be doing stupid things, if we don't take time to educate eachother. Education is key! But thats a whole 'nuther topic!)
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01/04/11, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
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I am reminded of the old joke that ends, "Do you want it pasteurized?" "No, just up to my chin." 
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no no no. The punch line is "no just past my titties"
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