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Old 12/30/10, 11:24 AM
 
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freaky cheap walk in fridge - cheese cave

This video features a guy that looooooves cheese. He has lots and lots of cheese.

He converted a room in his house into a "cheese cave" by tricking an air conditioner into being a refrigeration unit for a walk-in-fridge-like-thing.

http://www.youtube.com/paulwheaton12#p/u/0/QIxLw9t1IuA

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Old 12/30/10, 11:29 AM
 
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I can't see youtubes since I'm at work but a CoolBot will allow an a/c to be used as a walkin frig. See the link below



http://www.storeitcold.com/
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Old 12/30/10, 12:38 PM
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You didn't say he makes it too! Wow!
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Old 12/30/10, 02:45 PM
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I have a friend who butchers his own meat and makes sausage, etc. He has an old AC unit of mine for the chilling mechanism for his walk in cooler.

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Very interesting, but how does he keep the humidity up high enough for cheese? An air conditioner takes moisture out of the air. I would like to hear more about this as I need to come up with a good place for aging cheese too.
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Most likely there's a flat pan with water in it for evaporation to add to the humidity. That's what I do in my mini fridge cheese cave.
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Old 12/30/10, 07:21 PM
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Ha! I will have one!!!!!! Thanks for this video!!
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We're considering one on the blank north wall of the house. Then we could butcher any time of the year and let it hang until chilled. Nothing like dropping an elk on a hot September day.
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Most likely there's a flat pan with water in it for evaporation to add to the humidity. That's what I do in my mini fridge cheese cave.
Seems that would be just counter productive. One summer, I was running a humidifier and the air conditioner and the water was practically pouring out the drain pipe of the AC.
A refrigerator works a little different than AC I think....anyone want to expand on that for me since I am really not 100% sure?
I have been thinking of using my extra fridge with a water pan in it for my cheese too, but the fridge is outside right now and it is 8 degrees out there. Yeah, it makes a great freeze, but not so good as a fridge. :baby04:
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Old 12/31/10, 04:18 PM
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How to make a cheese cave:
http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes...ave/Cave1.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_5841144_make-cheese-cave.html

http://www.bonniebluefarm.com/Pages/...ult.asp?pid=66
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We do this in a closet in the garage for hanging meat.. just a little extra insulation. We turned it on again at christmas time and hooked a ham and a turkey to the meat hooks to defrost there is a shelf unit at one end of the closet and I put extra salads pies, cases of pop,water and juice out there during the holidays. we don't run it year round but it sure is nice when you are having company and have to prepare more food than your refridgerators will hold...
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Cool! Pun intended! But seriously, fun idea.
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You can buy a controller off the internet that will control the on/off power for as little as $75 and accomplish the same thing. The savings will pay for the A/C.
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You can buy a controller off the internet that will control the on/off power for as little as $75 and accomplish the same thing. The savings will pay for the A/C.
Would you have a link to such a fine device that works well?

And does anyone the know length of a hanging beef? I'm drawing plans for our cooler already.
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You can buy a controller off the internet that will control the on/off power for as little as $75 and accomplish the same thing. The savings will pay for the A/C.
Nope.

I believer you are referring to this controller, which can be used to turn a freezer into a refrigerator. Used by beer brewers, or off grid folks to make a really low watt use fridge out of a chest freezer.

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They do run just under 70 bucks at:

http://kegman.net/9025.html

However, they will NOT work on a window air conditioner to make a walk in cooler, since you are trying to do about the opposite thing....which is FORCE the AC unit to keep running below it's normal factory settings....not shut off early, which is what beer brewers want out of a freezer....to NOT get below 32.

Window AC units cut out somewhere in the low 60's. The Samsung unit I have can't be set below 64 degrees. All window AC's use a "probe" set in the fins on the intake side of the evaporator coil ( the coil you see if you pull off the room side of the cover ) that measures room temp via the air it pulls in first that passes over the evaporator coil ( the cold coil ). Once room temp air measures whatever the manufacturer determines is the unit low setting, it shuts off...or at least the compressor does...the fan may keep running.

The way Coolbot works is it has it's own, separate thermostat, AND a little heater wire you wrap around the sensor bulb on the AC. It "fools" the AC into thinking the room air is warmer than it ACTUALLY is by applying heat to that bulb, so the AC unit continues to run, and thus lowers the room temp below what the AC would otherwise do.

Once the room temp reaches whatever you set the Coolbot thermostat to, it then stops the heat going out to the AC sensor, and the unit THEN shuts off.

Also, you need to make sure you buy the brands of AC that Coolbot recommends, because some AC units also have a sensor for OUTSIDE temperatures, and simply won't run if the outside air temp is too low. I would imagine those are there so if you have a window AC sitting in the window during the winter and you set the house heat up to, say high 70's, and the window AC was set to low 70's, it won't kick on and run when it's 30 outside....locked into mortal combat with the house furnace, and only the power/gas company being the winner !

I just yesterday finished up the foam/fiberglass board of the inside of my walk in cooler, and my Coolbot is supposed to be here Thursday/Friday, so I'll test run it over the weekend, and report back how it works. I built a small, 6x6 cooler off the back of my garage to hang pork and beef when we do a home slaughter so we won't be at the mercy of mother nature so much for cooling. Got a hog we need to do next week, so I had to get on the stick and get this done.

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The controller that I referenced is the one TnAndy posted the pic of. I failed to add the details that you have to add a small relay that will be controlled by the $70 device. Using the pictured temp controller and a relay to feed the coil voltage to main relay in the AC one can reverse the operation of the $70 device. When the coil voltage of the Air Conditioner relay is controlled by the pictured controller and the small added relay it will bypass the blocking of the operation of the AC in cold weather. This modification is simpler to make than it is to describe.

This is typical of the relay that will be required
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMF-Potter-Brumf...item588be62545
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Agmantoo, so do you actually open up the a/c unit to wire into the main relay? And just bypass the a/c unit thermostat circuit? That's how I understand what you said, but I'm not sure. Certainly worth it to do this for $200 less than the CoolBot price. Thanks.
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Yes open the electrical portion of the AC. Verify the source of the coil voltage and send that voltage through the contacts in the small relay that is being controlled by the $70 device. As the $70 device activates the small relay it will in turn activate or deactivate the main AC relay. Make no other modifications to the AC.
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I just yesterday finished up the foam/fiberglass board of the inside of my walk in cooler
Are you taking pics?
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