John Deere 30 Combine

SGFarm · #1 12/21/10, 06:54 AM

Good Day:

I am looking at a JD 30 pull type with a straight cut head and a pickup head.

Pros / Cons? Comparison with an all-crop?

Will either one harvest a small plot of corn for flour?

Thanks for your input and advice

Mike

**Ross** · #2 12/21/10, 07:01 AM

I don't think either were built for corn, why not get a New Idea picker sheller or IH?

TomYaz · #3 12/21/10, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

I don't think either were built for corn, why not get a New Idea picker sheller or IH?

Ross it right. The All-Crop did have a corn head but they are hard to find and even harder to find parts. If a small plot of corn, best to pick by hand or picker and crib dry. If shelling in the field will need to have shelled corn drying capabilities.

Otherwise JDs, IH's And AC AllCrops all did a good job. As to which was the "best" is a matter of argument...AllCrops far outsold the rest if thats any indication...As for parts availability, I dont know what is still available for JDs and IH's, but All-Crops got good parts availability.

sammyd · #4 12/21/10, 08:03 AM

I believe the later Allis All Crops could do very limited corn. Would take a bit of power I'd think.......
A JD 30 won't as far as I know.
The 30 didn't have the canvas that the All Crops had and that can be an advantage.
I'd get a picker sheller as prescribed above.

TomYaz · #5 12/21/10, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyd

I believe the later Allis All Crops could do very limited corn. Would take a bit of power I'd think.......
A JD 30 won't as far as I know.
The 30 didn't have the canvas that the All Crops had and that can be an advantage. I'd get a picker sheller as prescribed above.

The AllCrops could do corn when the 66 came out. They made a header for the 66 that could fit the earlier 60. Didnt need additional power, but it was built for I think 38" or 40" rows without the yields of today. Also, doing corn was harder on the concave and cylinder bars. 72 and 90 AllCrop had the auger header as opposed to the draper.

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jwal10 · #6 12/21/10, 09:59 AM

JD 30 would need a corn head. A direct cut was for small grains and the pickup header was for swathed crops....James

fantasymaker · #7 12/21/10, 04:45 PM

Something with a cornhead IS BETTER but anything with a grain platform CAN cut corn.

mplatt4 · #8 12/21/10, 09:21 PM

if it was me I would look for a F or G gleaner (AC) they were great in there time and do a good job on everything from corn to fescue or wheat you can pick one up almost anywhere pretty cheap with a 13 foot header and usually can find a 2 row corn head really cheap as they are now to small for most the gleaner is a exellant fescue cutter you might be able to use it to pick up some extra money picking fescue seed in the summer and parts are available easy new and used and manuals also the best thing is you dont need a college degree to work on one or run one and with a little maintaining they will run forever and there cheap try in the ozarks where they used them to pick fescue seed when seed prices were up you can pick up some deals I bought one with a 13 foot head and 2 row corn head that was field ready with some greasing and a new belt for $400 good luck I had a JD 30 and a 60 before and I never could get it to stop throwing corn out the back it lost maybe 10% and anything green the parts are high

SGFarm · #9 12/22/10, 07:18 AM

The nice thing about the JD 30 is the price and location. An old SP would be nice though. I remember my uncle had an old Massey 300 when I was a kid. If I could find one cheap and close that would be nice to have. We will continue ot pick and shell the corn by hand until I can afford a picker sheller. We only do about 1 acre of corn for flour. But we are hoping to do 13 acres of wheat under seeded with hay this year so we will have more hay and pasture for next year.

Thanks for the advice

Mike

rambler · #10 12/22/10, 05:47 PM

Another issuewith corn is storing it. On the ear with air flowing through cribbing, the corn keeps well at 24% moisture or less. It slowly dries if it is in cribbing.

Shelled corn right out of the field, you need it under 15% misture. Without the air spaces, it needs to be dry, or it will heat up and mold.

It is rare in many locations to get field corn out of the field under 18-20% moisture.....

So, if you are switching from ear corn to shelled corn, be aware of the moisture issue as it applies.

--->Paul

**clovis** · #11 12/22/10, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rambler

Another issuewith corn is storing it. On the ear with air flowing through cribbing, the corn keeps well at 24% moisture or less. It slowly dries if it is in cribbing.

Shelled corn right out of the field, you need it under 15% misture. Without the air spaces, it needs to be dry, or it will heat up and mold.

It is rare in many locations to get field corn out of the field under 18-20% moisture.....

So, if you are switching from ear corn to shelled corn, be aware of the moisture issue as it applies.

--->Paul

Very true information.

Isn't this why so many farmers used to wait until the first frost before harvesting because the moisture content was so much lower?