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12/18/10, 09:20 AM
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another raw cheese maker goes down
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/uc...ce77e0195621,0
With emily's family being hit by a recall I look closely at these recalls. Is it just me ,but when kraft and other mega companys have recalls you dont often notice the recalls. It seems they stay pretty quiet about it.
Call me parinoid but it seems they like to beat up the little cheese makes/farmers. I wonder if this one is as unfounded as Morningland dairy recall aka ozark jewls family farm?
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12/18/10, 09:40 AM
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If you look at the website you posted, and then just click back a page, you can find the listings for all the recalls of each year. Recalls are public information--no need to wonder or guess. This will be changed in due time as the new law will make FDA able to mandate recalls and inspect in the factories--right now the recalls are voluntary--(but obviously because of pressure from FDA, state agencies, press, and consumer advocates.).
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12/18/10, 08:43 PM
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but when kraft and other mega companys have recalls you dont often notice the recalls. It seems they stay pretty quiet about it.
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yeah right that's why they have it on the radio and TV with the lot numbers and any other labels the product was sold under.......
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12/18/10, 09:37 PM
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I don't really understand your point, major manufacturers make the news. Now that you bring this up it makes you wonder about a small operation having a recall and how anyone would know about it. Also makes you wonder about a small operation having a quality control problem like this.
Do you think it should be kept quiet no matter the size of the company?
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12/18/10, 10:10 PM
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Maybe we just don't bother to notice anymore, unless we see a "little guy", getting picked on.
Google "kraft foods recalls".
They're not really hiding anything.
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12/18/10, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by myheaven
I wonder if this one is as unfounded as Morningland dairy recall aka ozark jewls family farm?
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What was unfounded about this case?
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This recall was issued as a result of contamination found during a routine regulatory sampling. The FDA, the Missouri Milk Board and Morningland Dairy are investigating the source of the contamination.
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http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm224797.htm
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12/18/10, 11:40 PM
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What was unfounded about this case?
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They never found any contamination AT the dairy, or in any of the cheese still AT the dairy
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12/19/10, 02:56 AM
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Wow, there's someone on this forum who DOESN'T know the Morningland details? Interesting!
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12/19/10, 09:32 AM
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Maybe we should get more of this story beyond the link provided. I really have less of a clue what this is about now.
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12/19/10, 10:32 AM
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Wow, there's someone on this forum who DOESN'T know the Morningland details? Interesting!
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Sorry, it's a pre-alzheimer's thing (for real).
I did go back and research the story and now remember why I bailed out early.
The facts of the story were minimal, but the inuendo, gossip and stories pushing their own agenda, clouded everything, the whole David vs Goliath thing.
This was a 30 year old raw cheese diary, but the current owners only operated for the last 4. Contamination was found by the state in random cheese sample testing, so they wanted the dairy, to destroy their current inventory as a precaution, which was a considerable loss of money for the dairy.
It certainly was a dilemna, but most unlikely that the state would give them the go-ahead, to sell their current inventory, which is true of any recall.
A sad story. I did learn that having a recall insurance policy, would be a good idea for large scale food distribution.
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And of course a story is just that a Story and one persons opinion and very little facts from the other side of things. That is why it is so minimal and all the innuendoes abound.
There is always more to the "story" then ever gets printed.
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12/19/10, 02:20 PM
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Having the word "raw" in your food products, imho, an open invitation to continuous attack by the nanny staters. Hopefully, the rewards are worth the risks of bankruptcy.
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12/19/10, 03:41 PM
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When the FDA made their illegal raid on Rawsome Foods, they did, indeed, seize cheese (at gunpoint).
They claimed that the cheese was from Morningland. BUT Morningland had not sold that flavor/type of cheese to Rawsome - EVER.
Furthermore, there were NO lot numbers given. Morningland NEVER got a sample to have tested independently. Most importantly, despite the FACT that in over THIRTY YEARS of operation, NO ONE HAS EVER EVER EVER become ill from eating a Morningland product and they have not traced the suspect cheese to Morningland, the Dixon family has been harassed, hounded, and put through Hades.
Furthermore, after coming in and taking ONE HUNDRED swabs throughout the entire dairy, not ONE pathogen was found. That is a matter of record, but you'll have to dig mighty darned deep to get it.
This can be traced to large corporations accusing small producers of "piracy."
The MO Milk Board and Chris Koster, the AG for MO, are both buddies of big business.
I actually got a letter from the Milk Board that was so full of lies I dang near vomited.
The information is all out there. Anyone can find it.
If anyone is interested in the story the FDA isn't telling, here are a few links to get you started:
At the Uncheese Party, you will find actual copies of the documents from the testing. Astounding in how LITTLE information they give.
http://uncheeseparty.wordpress.com/2010/10/
This FB site has many updates, not just on Morningland, but other dairies being harassed by the govt:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Un...62484867114924
And finally, The Truth Farmer has incredibly well-researched and very well-presented information on what's going on:
http://truth-farmer.blogspot.com/
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Thanks Pony!
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