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Old 12/16/10, 10:48 AM
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Question wrap around wood deck and ICE?

this house has a huge deck, no way out of house without stepping on it. With this being our first winter here I am lost on how the best way to deal with it.
I have to go outside every day to bring wood in and to let the dog potty she is 11 years old now I do not want her to hurt herself or me for that matter if I go down it more more than likely led to surgery on my knees or back just hope its not both.
I know I can not use rock salt no way I would have the money to replace the deck as the salt would eat the wood away wouldn't it?
so could I nail down carpet? oh its a double deck two sets of steps,one set 4 steps the other two. Any one have a sloution? thank you paula

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Old 12/16/10, 10:54 AM
 
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I would not use salt on the deck. We had / have a similar problem here. What I do is to set old pieces of fabric out on the deck or stone porch......this morning we have ice here and I set four pieces of old ratty rugs out last night......the fabric or rugs will not get as slick as the ice and if you leave them lumpy and rough....it makes foot holds....

Sorry - it is hard to explain......we took old pieces of fabric.......thick fuzzy pieces like a sweat shirt material.....and we just lump them up in stepping stone pattern on the side porch.......they do get frozen but still provide foot holds and foot grabs so we can walk on them and not fall........the porch / deck part alone gets slippery and there is no way to grab on anything.......the lumps keep me from falling.....

A neighbor uses those brown scratchy floor mat things......she sets those out but if there is heavy ice those get iced over too...

If you get carpet to try, be sure it is very lumpy and scratchy.....you need the friction....

I always take the cell phone in my pocket when I go to the barn to let the dogs/cats out each morning and to fetch wood.......actually I haul all my firewood in each weekend and have it on the porch.......plan ahead so you don't have to haul wood in snow or ice.......get a pile of it near the door.......

Take your phone in hand when you go out just in case you fall down then you can call someone.

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Old 12/16/10, 10:56 AM
 
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I just thought of this - one winter we nailed roof shingles down on the ramp from the old porch......but those iced over too so we went back and nailed strips of wood on top of the shingles........we had to be careful not to trip on the wood strips but it did provide foot holds in the ice........

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Old 12/16/10, 11:00 AM
 
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For me a deck without a roof is useless. For a temp solution would be carpet or roll roofing. If left down it would promote rot under it when moisture got between it and the deck.

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Granular fertilizer will work, cornmeal will help.

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Old 12/16/10, 12:42 PM
 
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Old 12/16/10, 01:18 PM
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Spread some kitty litter (we use clay granule oil absorbent) or wood stove ashes, yes they get tracked in but are easily cleaned up. We have five indoor-outdoor dogs. Our cement porch and front walk get ice-covered and then snow-packed but I try to get them cleared off as soon as possible.

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Old 12/16/10, 01:36 PM
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I use kitty liter and or wood ashes...sounds like pieces of carpet or rugs would help to..

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We have the same situation. We put YakTraks on our boots and we can walk anywhere with ease. No salt or other stuff on the deck, either.

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Old 12/16/10, 04:09 PM
 
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I used birdseed on the ice too--not only did it help with traction but the wild turkeys pecked the ice up so completely I could use a broom or shovel to push it away.

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Old 12/16/10, 05:12 PM
 
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Sawdust has worked surprisingly well on icy spots here.
I wouldn't be so much worried about salt (actual "ice melter") on the wood, but rather the fasteners and joist hangers below (if there are hangers). Some joist hangers can handle it- I believe the zink coated.

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Thank you all so much for the help I have such a fear of falling on this deck I did not even think of the produts to go over the shoes just ordered 2 pair,paula

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Our walk and patio were slick this morning. I took throw rugs and threw them down over the ice, moving them as I moved toward my car which was in a garage. Worked pretty good.
I have put my husband's old socks over my shoes to get traction also.

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Thank you all so much for the help I have such a fear of falling on this deck I did not even think of the produts to go over the shoes just ordered 2 pair,paula
U will never regret that purchase, unless you try to walk indoors on a tiled floor with them! Love mine.

Our wood back porch is mostly under roof, just the steps are not and I put rock salt on them. I don't want my old dog or anyone else for that matter killing themselves going up or down.
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Salt won't hurt the wood, but it may hurt the fasteners if they are regular nails or screws. Good quality deck fasteners designed for pressure treated wood would be built to stand up well to the salt, so - I'd not be dead set against the salt. We all go through 50 lb bags of it up here in MN.

I'd use an icemelt, not just rock salt. Many of the ice melt bags are made of a bit safer material, basically a different version of salt - not quite so corrosive.

As I'm not real keen on salt myself, I often get by with quartz chips - sold in 50 lb bages for abrasive blasting, the bigger chips are a tad bigger than sand, and have a very nice 'grip' to them.

Just good old sand, of course, will work too, but the finer stuff is almost too fine.

Throw rugs and other such can be a hazzard of their own.......

Look for the quartz grit - works well.

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Old 12/17/10, 10:01 AM
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Ditto, use a plastic shovel with no metal strip on the edge. Carpet remnants work well once the snow is removed. If you know more snow is coming snag the remnants and stash them aside while the snow falls (if your home, of course). Even if you don't and they freeze to the deck it better then walking on the ice.
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I thought of this thread again this morning. Last night our boys found ice all around their Hot Tub, all over the deck around it and they just took old beach towels and put down on the ice. It kept them from falling on the ice. As they walked back over towards the house, they just picked up the towels and brought them in.

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Old 12/20/10, 03:45 PM
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I have a deck and have lived here more then 14 years and have been using salt for all these years and not even the steps are bad. Which get way more then the deck itself.
I also have a Shovel Right Outside The Door~! So I do not have to "step out without stepping in the snow". I can reach it from the door and I can SHOVEL before I even take a step onto the deck. I have one of those Wide Aluminum Shovels and that works great. You can shovel push whatever it takes and not hurt the deck at all.

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After being yanked by my then hound dog straight across a deck and down the stairs (stupid me for not realizing there was a squirrel sitting on the otherside of the deck) I learned the painful way that sand is wonderful for grip on a deck. It is somewhat of a pain to have to sweep up but putting a throw rug down helped contain most of it. Its really amazing at how painful an icy deck can be!

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Lime works way better the sand. And is even good for the grass etc. that might be around the deck. I use lime on all my paths out to feed the critters. Lime actually Sticks to the ice and adheres right to it, and boy does lime make good traction if stuck.~! I even carry a bag of lime in the trunk. For "Just In Case". ( Ag-Lime )

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